Mob beheads nun in Bagdad

UPI | 8/27/02 | UWE SIEMON-NETTO

[Bobby777]

correct ... (and it was only on that one statement by the particular group in question that I commented on) ... however, I'm sure you well know the Moslems reject the Deity of Christ, His Atoning Sacrifice and His Eternal Rule ... and yet some "christian" pastors let Moslems teach from their pulpits ...

[AAABEST]

She wouldn't have wanted that.

I'm sure she wouldn't have wanted that, it's what I want though.

Get this through your heads, the only way to deal with sworn mortal enemies mercilessly destroy them and everything they hold dear. Smash them until they beg you to stop, until they shun anyone amongst them who even thinks about killing an innocent person who's just trying to lead the life that God gave them.

That's not my opinion, that's undebatable scientific fact. We've forgotten this crucial lesson in our overprotected surburban fog. I can assure you that we will re-learn it. The easy way or the hard way.... sooner or later.

I believe them now when they say they want to kill us.

[VRW Conspirator]

I suggested a rather bold plan based on a Biblical phrase:

Mene Mene Tekel Uparsin
(measured - weighed - divided)

This is what happened to the Babylonian Empire. IOW, Attack Iraq, and divide it up between their neighbors. Saudia Arabia would get a piece; Iran would get a chunk; the Kurds would get another, etc. This could appease all the Arab countries while disposing of a potential enemy. Game, set, match.

[Salvation]

defend Mary as the "mother of God"?

Nothing to defend. She IS the Mother of God the Son, Jesus Christ.

[crazykatz]

In the Nicene Creed in the Eastern Orthodox Church, uses the original words WITHOUT the Roman Catholic addition of the filoque.

Read about it in the works of the Ecumenical Patriarch, St. Photios the Great. The addition of filoque by Rome, was one of the causes of the Great Schism.

It still separates the Eastern Orthodox Christians from BOTH Rome and the Prostestants.

[Bobby777]

so you believe that Mary is the mother of God? ... twice I have asked you and twice you have not stated otherwise ...

however, this is America and you're certainly entitled to your beliefs ... I certainly would not deny you that right ...

I'll stick with the Scripture ... yes, solely ... FReegards

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

denying the Deity of Christ is rejection of the Truth

Nestorius was at one point a leading theologian in Constantinople, he was trained in Greek philosophy, and his heresy, like many others of the period, derived from attempts to apply these philosophical doctrines to the truths of the Bible. While Nestorianism and Arianism disappeared from within the Empire, the simpler concept that Christ was only a man was adopted by the German tribes, since Nestorius and Arius were energetic at sending missionaries to them.

As a result, when these German tribes conquered the Western Empire, their heretical views made it harder for them to join in fellowship with the Christians who accepted the Creed. This had a highly disruptive effect on later western history.

[Barnacle]

Hey guys. Let's not go there. This discussion is not about Mary. Start up a separate thread and have at it till 2 AM.

[G Larry]

Not this Catholic Freeper!

I'm not sure how you arrived at this conclussion?
How do you determine "we've" been silent?
How do you determine why?
Are you not aware of how supportive Catholics are of our
Jewish brothers?
Or, do you believe the politically contrived nonsense regarding some supposed anti-Jewish sentiments in the Catholic Church?

Has "Cicerro" or "Cicerro's wife" been silent on this subject? (may have misspelled their names)

[Bobby777]

did Jesus exist prior to His Earthly birth? (by your understanding) ... a simple yes or no ... (unless you're agreeing that she was the Earthly vessel used to bring Him in human form) ...

[BlackVeil]

"unaware of their particular beliefs" I, also, am not fully aware of their theological positions. In the Middle East, there are all sorts of Christian groups which maintain beliefs long ago crushed in the West (ironically, because they lived in the Islamic world, out of reach of Christian death sentences.) Some do deny the divinity of Christ, but others, who are accused of doing this by the Western Churches, believe in the "sole nature", which means in fact that they deny his human nature. Some others adore Christ as the "firstborn of creation", rather than the second person of the Trinity.

[JMJ333]

I thought I was clear. Yes, that is my belief. I also posted a link to lay out my beliefs. Do you need me to post the link again?

And you are free to believe sola sciptura, but that wasn't my origional question. It was "who is your authority for interpreting scripture?" And after that I asked how did you know if the right books were inspired since you reject the authority who put the scripture together.

Regards to you also.

[Bobby777]

don't care to ... I don't need a thread on that which is clear ... I started commenting on the article ... this is not a subject I debate ad infinitum anyway ...

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

It still separates the Eastern Orthodox Christians from BOTH Rome and the Prostestants.

This is certainly true of the filioque controversy, but since it has to do with whether the Third Person of the Trinity was sent by The First Person AND the Second Person, or WITH the Second Person, it has nothing whatsoever to do with Nestorianism or Arianism, which is rejected by Orthodox, Catholics, and nearly all Protestants. It is therefore off-topic for this thread, which touches on theology only in the relationship between Nestorian Christians and other Christians.

[JMJ333]

I put up a thread and am willing to go there! I apologize for hijacking the thread...I couldn't help myself! =)

[Bobby777]

thanks for your reply.

[Bobby777]

OK, we'll agree to disagree ... FReegards

[Lucius Cornelius Sulla]

thanks for your reply.

You're welcome, while there are many things which separate Western Christians, the matter of the nature of the Trinity, which is what separates us from the Nestorians, is not one of them.

[RightOnline]

Savages. I'll revel in their total destruction.

[Palladin]

Sister Cecilia is surely a martyr/saint in Heaven. May she pray for all of us who are still struggling on our way home.