An 'Authentic' Conservative, Buchanan Parts With Bush

INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY ^ | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 | BY BRIAN MITCHELL

[hchutch]

And the Crips, Bloods, and Gangster Disciples don't commit murders?

[connectthedots]

The new, bi-weekly magazine will debut next month and be called "The American Conservative."

"The American Socialist" would be more appropriate for a magazine founded by Buchanan.

[ravingnutter]

You believe the remark that "The reason they were over here on 9-11 is that we are over there." is on target? I think not. Also he repeats the lie that the President is going to war without the approval of Congress. Bush has clearly stated he would get approval from Congress...

"Publicly, White House spokesmen say Bush would still consult Congress on any decision regarding war on Iraq."

Source

It was the WH lawyer, Alex Gonzales who stated Bush did not need Congressional approval, HE does NOT make the decisions, in fact, although true, it was a very stupid thing for him to say publicly. To top that, Congress has already given their approval to topple Saddam already, via H. CON. RES. 286, dated Dec 11, 2001, the last paragraph which states:

"Whereas the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 (22 U.S.C. 2151 note) declares that it should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime of Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime: Now, therefore, be it Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring), That the Congress supports the President in using all means at his disposal to encourage the establishment of a democratically elected government in Iraq."

Source: Thomas Legislation Archives

[That Subliminal Kid]

there seems to be a sense of bitterness about him.

It's all in your head. He seems very even handed and sometimes even happy-go-lucky.

[Destructor]

"Patrick J. Buchanan isn't giving up. He's left the Republican Party for good. And he isn't planning a fourth run for the White House."

I'm sure the Satanic Druids and Illuminatis are relieved!

[That Subliminal Kid]

"The American Socialist" would be more appropriate for a magazine founded by Buchanan.

Would you care to explain this comment? Please be specific and explain exactly how Buchanan is even remotely "Socialist". If you point out his views on Globalisation you'll have to then support the claim that that position is in fact Socialist, and explain how.

[Zviadist]

I have concelled NR after being a subscriber since I was 16. I will try Buchanan's mag.

I know the feeling.

[That Subliminal Kid]

Bush has clearly stated he would get approval from Congress

That's funny. Just yesterday they made a public affirmation that Administration legal counsel has determined that Bush does NOT need Congress's approval. If he did ask them it would only be a formality to get people to stop crying.

[PuNcH]

And the Crips, Bloods, and Gangster Disciples don't commit murders?

DPS intelligence reports said Mexico-based rings were responsible for half of all homicides in Maricopa County.

[Zviadist]

Bush has clearly stated he would get approval from Congress...

"Publicly, White House spokesmen say Bush would still consult Congress on any decision regarding war on Iraq."

You no speaka the english? Since when does "consult" mean the same as "get approval"? You guys sure play loose with the facts when it suits your twisted agenda.

[CaliforniaOkie]

Pat, how about "The American Sore Loser" as a working title. You can get Gore and McKinney as contributing columnists.

I fully agree with you, Pat Buchanan is the biggest blow hard around. What makes him think he has any credibility left?

[hchutch]

And you've not answered my question.

[exmarine]

Containment and deterrence will work with almost any state.

Except those who die for Allah and could care less about loss of life in any country. Buchanan is wrong on this. The best defense is a good offense. He may be conservative but he doesn't understand self-defense.

I also disagree with him vehemently on Israel. Buchanan sees both sides as equal which leads me to believe he is clueless about this religious war we are in, and he is clueless as to the religious nature of the war in Israel. He needs to bone up on radical islam. I will be glad to send him "Islamic Invasion" by Dr. Robert Morey if he needs an education.

[KC_Conspirator]

As much as I think Pat is a crank, I think he could actually do well with a magazine.

[Glenn]

Just a future failure for Pat. Something he's used to.

[PuNcH]

I dont need you to see where your coming from and I dont have to spell it out for anyone else.

[Zviadist]

I fully agree with you, Pat Buchanan is the biggest blow hard around. What makes him think he has any credibility left?

So don't watch his show and don't buy his magazine, then. Why whine about it?

[ravingnutter]

You said it exactly right..."Administration legal counsel has determined". They do NOT make the final decisions, their job is to RECOMMEND a course of action. Every article I have ever read on this has the WH spokespeople stating that they will consult Congress before taking action, despite what the "Administrative legal counsel has determined".

[Zviadist]

Except those who die for Allah and could care less about loss of life in any country. Buchanan is wrong on this.

Wrong! If the elites and the American intellegentsia -- left and right -- had heeded Buchanan's calls for tighter borders years ago we never would have had these homocidal ragheads in our country! Pat was right then and he is right now.

[rogerthedodger]

"Except those who die for Allah and could care less about loss of life in any country. Buchanan is wrong on this. The best defense is a good offense. He may be conservative but he doesn't understand self-defense."

Maybe so. I guess we should start in on Pakistan then, too?

Regarding your comment on Israel, does that mean you believe that the Palestinians are less entitled to a state than are the Israelis?