An 'Authentic' Conservative, Buchanan Parts With Bush

INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY ^ | Wednesday, August 28, 2002 | BY BRIAN MITCHELL

[Poohbah]

You met "Uncle Ron?" That's why my dad called him and became a "Reagan Democrat." He loved how he showed the ATC the door for going on strike when it violated their contract.

I met him in 1980, at his campaign appearance in San Diego the night before the election. Shook hands, he asked me my name, and asked if I was going to vote for him in 1984 (I was only 15).

Remember when he told the heckler, "Aw, SHUT UP!"?

I knew the heckler, he was two years ahead of me at Patrick Henry High School. OK computer dweeb, but otherwise a bit of a jerk.

[jwalsh07]

The ultimate question is whether there's going to be a Jewish state in the Mideast

If Pat were King, I'm sure this would be so. He would abandon our long time ally like Clinton dumped Lewinsky, in a heart beat.

Pat is so clueless on foreign affairs he still thinks WW2 was a mistake on Roosevelts part. Even with the benefit of hindsight his brand of isolationism pulls the wool right over his eyes.

I agree with Pat on securing the borders from illegals and on protecting the life of the unborn.

I disagree with Pat that pulling the covers over you head and hoping the Husseins of the world go away before you wake up is a substitute for foreign policy. That difference is so profound I put Pat only a few notches ahead of Harry the Hat as far as getting my vote goes.

[hchutch]

I think that, too.

I also think, that were he in the position George W. Bush is in, he'd probably be acting little differently Bush Jr. is. It's simply a matter of priorities.

Right now, the war has priority.

[rdb3]

You just go the right direction. I'm headed there, too.

I'm no one's leader.

[Poohbah]

You don't think much of Reagan, do you?

He was a damn good President, and definitely the greatest of the post-WW2 bunch. (I think Teddy Roosevelt edges Reagan out as the best of the century, though.)

I do fault him for not getting rid of the ABM Treaty and not going into a practical strategic defense program instead of a series of studies and technology demonstrations--in that, I think that he and his advisers were "captured by the system."

But I do credit him with throwing the gauntlet down in front of Gorby--I still get shivers when I hear the speech, "Mr. Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!"

[WindMinstrel]

Of what advantage is all this American empire, interfering in all these quarrels around the world, if as a consequence we lose freedom at home and live in constant danger of some kind of small atomic weapon detonated on American soil?

No entangling alliances bump!

[ex-snook]

"Hey, if you think I am offtopic, you know where the abuse button is. "

Never used it. I am not part of the thought censor hit squad. Besides I'd rather people see your approach to rational discussion. You censor ideas you can't refute by changing the topic.

[jwalsh07]

But they were men. Nothing but men. But you wouldn't know that listening to some people.

Those men understood that which is why they made the Constitution amendable. You're right, they should not be deified but respected for what they did correctly.

They also knew that men were endowed by their Creator with unalienable rights and the three they spoke of were life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That they didn't all practice it makes those words no less important. That one they got right.

[rdb3]

I concur that we should honor them for their accomplishments and founding this nation.

But their deification grates me.

[gcruse]

I bet you voted for Perot, didn't you. Or are
you related to him? You certainly talk like him.

Is this your piece de resistance?  Wow.
I'm just blown away.

[cake_crumb]

"It is just a case of someone trying to muddy the waters for Bush."

Sadly, there are those among us who bill themselve as "conservative" who will believe anything...as long as it reflects badly on Bush. 'Course, most of them are sitting in a haze of smoke from a substance they'd like to have legalized, too.

[Zviadist]

all deserve a family ass-whipping, and I'm just the one to do it.

OK tough guy. You go for it. But you might want to research the intellectual origins of a movement you claim to be a part of. I certainly would.

[jwalsh07]

But their deification grates me.

Yeah, I get sick of the old guy quotefests myself.

[gcruse]

You censor ideas you can't refute by changing the topic.

Yeah, I'm the forum censor, except it hasn't
done much to close you down, has it?

[Zviadist]

Yeah, I get sick of the old guy quotefests myself.

Yeah...just a bunch of dead white guys. Feels like I am on DU website or somesuch liberal crap site. You guys are bizarre. Certainly not conservative -- ever looked up the meaning of the word "conserve"? Didn't think so.

[The Irishman]

Ever time anything concerning Pat's opinion on anything is posted a gaggle of spouters of ad hominem attacks comes forward. Seldom do they address anything discussed in the article.

One very curious thing, despite their antipathy for the man and their opinion that he is of no consequence they feel it is worth their time to repeat their attacks upon him ad nauseum.

I have read their comments about his "anti-semitism". I have read their references. I might have a tendency to believe them if their comments weren't so blatantly taken out of context or slanted.

I plan to look into subscribing to the magazine. It should be worth a look. With enemies like these, he couldn't be all wrong.

Regards.

[habs4ever]

A Neo-Con is a Reagan Republican.Believers in economic growth, strong defence, traditional values, limited gov't.Its getting to those goals that cause the heartburn ;-)

[cake_crumb]

Oh, I see....if we are not "Randians, Libertarians, and John Birchers" we are not conservatives in your "mind."

[jwalsh07]

Conserve this shmuck. You've got no credibility with me pal. You issued alarmist warnings on the attack on Afghanistan. The Russians couldn't do it, the British were thrown out on their asses, blah, blah, blah.

To me, your posts are worthless. By chance most people are correct more times than you when you're trying to be. You are a statistical anomaly.

[Vets_Husband_and_Wife]

I still don't understand Buchanan's sympathy toward the Palestinians, but the rest is right on target.

The rest is right on target? Buchanan is a psychopath!! Good Lord, to think ANYONE supports his mindset, is frightening to say the least.