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Why do Bush/Ashcroft continue anti-gun policies?
Keep and Bear Arms ^ | 28 August 2002 | Harry Schneider

Posted on 08/28/2002 5:16:11 PM PDT by 45Auto

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To: tpaine
Spinky's getting smoked. He should pull up stakes and withdraw, under the cover of darkness of course.
61 posted on 08/28/2002 8:12:17 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: skull stomper
The Bill of Rights lists NATURAL rights that are given by GOD to all. No Government has the right to remove these rights.

Look, nothing personal here skull, :-}, but you're wrong. Life and liberty rank up there right along side the the RTKBA. Are you arguing that felons can not have those rights abridged?

The state doesn't abridge the right of felons, the felons do that to themselves, sort of like when a Priest has sex with a young boy, he excommunicates himself from the church and is no longer entitled to the right of communion.

You have to learn a bit of nuance. I've already stated that all of these abridgements need to be case specific and as an aside they should be appealable.

But your lecture to me on Stalin and Mao and the Pope is falling on deaf ears. I'm well aware of the genesis of the second amendment and I support it. I have guns, I vote pro gun and I've contributed time and money.

On the other hand, felons who prey on the innocent and the weak are going to get zero sympathy from me. Maybe you could work on Sink?

62 posted on 08/28/2002 8:16:56 PM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: tpaine
Left/right has nothing to do with idiocy.

I agree with that.

63 posted on 08/28/2002 8:19:29 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: Noumenon
Phrases like "smug kisser of statist butt" make a compelling argument.
64 posted on 08/28/2002 8:27:06 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: 45Auto

65 posted on 08/28/2002 8:28:41 PM PDT by PatrioticAmerican
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To: rdb3
Amazing, isn't it, that you didn't agree at #52.
66 posted on 08/28/2002 8:32:30 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: Fred Mertz
Spinky's getting smoked. He should pull up stakes and withdraw, under the cover of darkness of course. - Fred
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Spurred on no doubt, by the sound of all that legal cannonfire made by patriotic owners & collectors.

Whatta weirdo.
67 posted on 08/28/2002 8:41:45 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: 45Auto
*RIGHT WING WAcO ALERT*
Our government declared war on its people in the 1860s in the war of Northern Aggression. Do not expect them to give us any freedom back without a fight.
68 posted on 08/28/2002 8:45:15 PM PDT by illbenice
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To: sinkspur
sink, I thank you for adding much needed humor to my day.
69 posted on 08/28/2002 8:47:46 PM PDT by c-b 1
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To: sinkspur
After you have served the punishment accorded to you, you are no longer a criminal. You should watch your tone when you responed to people, in real life you would get punched in the face for your tone.
70 posted on 08/28/2002 8:48:16 PM PDT by illbenice
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To: illbenice
You should watch your tone when you responed to people, in real life you would get punched in the face for your tone.

Not likely. I don't know any felons.

And, one of the penalties of committing a felony is that it stays with you. You can't buy a gun, you can't vote, and you can't get a decent job.

71 posted on 08/28/2002 8:53:21 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: S.O.S121.500
I'm not sure I would characterize GWB as a socialist, but I do bet he wakes up sobbing in the wee hours, wondering how much more he has to do to get Peter Jennings and Molly Ivins to say nice things about him.
72 posted on 08/28/2002 8:56:35 PM PDT by Charlotte Corday
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To: Shooter 2.5
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73 posted on 08/28/2002 8:58:37 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: tpaine
I don't see what you're driving at.
74 posted on 08/28/2002 9:05:43 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: Charlotte Corday
I'm not sure I would characterize GWB as a socialist, but I do bet he wakes up sobbing in the wee hours, wondering how much more he has to do to get Peter Jennings and Molly Ivins to say nice things about him.

You sound just like Molly.

75 posted on 08/28/2002 9:07:03 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: sinkspur
I'm assuming you're drunk. If you're not, then you've lost what little mind you've got left.

LOL! Is that it?

You, dane, Roscoe and a few other hardcore tight-holed types behave exactly the same when you're losing an argument. Ya'll can't seem to back your frigid dogma with critical thinking. You just have to hold your warped religion dear at all cost, no matter how much logic you're presented with. Thank God there's so few of you running around here.

I'll give you another shot at backing up your utterly stupid and irrelevant response.

I know someone who was convicted of joyriding when he was 19 (nearly 40 years ago). Since then, he's grown a 2 million dollar real estate busines, became a county commisioner and is active in his church... in addition to being a wonderful human being.

Yet the morons amongst us would have him and his family slaughtered should anyone have the will to do so.

Now, show me where any drunkeness or insanity is displayed in the above remarks.

This is what will transpire; a. You'll type another blockheaded repsonse that has nothing to do with anything. b. You'll put your tail between your legs and say nothing at all. In any case you won't be able to support your falsehoods. The reason I know this is because it's exactly how intellectual weaklings behave.

76 posted on 08/28/2002 9:08:52 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: jwalsh07
If you're a felon, you're rights can and should be abridged. At what level is case dependent.

The problem is all the Barbara Streisand that's classified as a felony. Being a stupid teenager should not cost someone their right to vote or 2nd amendment rights etc.

Also, Rights are given to all by our Creator, not by the central government. Governments cannot grant, nor take away rights. It only protects or violates rights.

77 posted on 08/28/2002 9:10:23 PM PDT by Lester Moore
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To: sinkspur
Not likely. I don't know any felons

You probably do and just dont know it.

Go to any restaraunt. Statistically, 1/4 of the waitresses have a felony conviction, usually for possession with intent to distribute, simply because they made the mistake of going out with the wrong guy & she was with him when he got pulled over & busted for his personal dime bag.

1/2 of the cooks will have a felony conviction, either for posession or for getting in a drunken bar fight when they were 21.

78 posted on 08/28/2002 9:10:30 PM PDT by Ford Fairlane
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To: AAABEST
Yet the morons amongst us would have him and his family slaughtered should anyone have the will to do so.

Slaughtered?

BEST, you're the master at erecting a strawman, knocking him down, and blaming someone else for it.

But, you'll whine as you always do.

79 posted on 08/28/2002 9:16:14 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur; AAABEST
Since then, he's grown a 2 million dollar real estate busines

And who would that be? Carlton Sheets?

80 posted on 08/28/2002 9:20:36 PM PDT by takenoprisoner
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