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To: Mohammed El-Shahawi
Isn't it about time to dissolve the FBI, and start over again? The breakdown in this agency has been apparent for years, yet the funding keeps coming. That would make us enablers.
2 posted on 08/29/2002 3:47:30 AM PDT by Bernard
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To: Bernard
Isn't it about time to dissolve the FBI, and start over again?

The FBI was stacked by Clinton for many years. He has stuffed all kinds of critters in there, from traditional Clintonoids to jihadists. A cleanup seems to be well nigh impossible, given that he stacked the rest of the administration the exact same way.

So how do you propose that a new agency be set up, as long as the ones doing the hiring will likely just hire the old and approved goons from the FBI?

3 posted on 08/29/2002 3:56:13 AM PDT by Cachelot
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To: Bernard
No, it is NOT time to disband them. Again we are shown a story against them, but we fail to mention all the things they are accomplishing. I guess I for one am really sick of the glass half empty vs the glass half full attitude regarding anything run by our Government.

Read on:


U.S. Charges 6 With Terror Support
By ALEXANDRA R. MOSES
ASSOCIATED PRESS



DETROIT- When federal agents raided a Detroit apartment shortly after Sept. 11, they found three men living in what was essentially a flop house, with no beds and garbage bags full of clothing.

A search of the apartment resulted in an alarming discovery: a cache of false documents, a day planner detailing planned attacks in Turkey and Jordan and a videotape that appeared to case U.S. landmarks such as Disneyland in California and the MGM Grand Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas.

Karim Koubriti, Ahmed Hannan and Farouk Ali-Haimoud were taken into custody and charged with fraud and misuse of visas. At the time, officials said they were really looking for another man whose name appeared on the mailbox.

But on Wednesday, the three were among six men charged by federal grand juries with conspiring to support Osama bin Laden's al-Qaida network.

U.S. officials said they expected several more such indictments in coming months as the FBI, Customs Service and other federal agencies attempt to block money and operational support from the United States from reaching terror groups overseas.

Agents believe they have uncovered a broad effort by U.S. residents - many of whom are citizens or legal residents - to use credit card thefts, illegal cigarette sales, diverted charitable funds and cash smuggled in airline luggage to enrich terror groups, the officials said.

The charges include five men listed in the Detroit indictment and one in Seattle. In the Seattle case, Muslim activist Earnest James Ujaama was accused in a two-count indictment of trying to set up a "jihad (holy war) training camp" on the West Coast and providing support and resources to al-Qaida.

The indictment accused Ujaama, an American citizen, of leading discussions about creating poison to use on the public and firebombing vehicles. Ujaama has repeatedly denied any ties to terrorism.

The men arrested in Detroit were accused of acting with two others as "a covert underground support unit" and a "sleeper operational combat cell" for a radical Islamic movement allied with al-Qaida. They were charged with conspiracy to provide material support or resources to terrorists.

The other men named in the Detroit indictment are Youssef Hmimssa and a man known only by his first name, Abdella. Hmimssa was named at the top of the indictment, where the charges were listed, but was not further mentioned. U.S. officials offered no immediate explanation, although legal experts said it probably signaled that the details of Hmimssa's indictment are sealed by a court.

All of the men except Abdella are in custody.

The Detroit indictment said the men used code to speak about terrorist plans and were "involved in plans to obtain weaponry to benefit operatives overseas."

"Their planning involved specific violent attacks, including ones that targeted an American air base in Incerlik, Turkey, and a hospital in Amman, Jordan," the indictment said.

Hannan's attorney, James Thomas, said Wednesday he could not comment on the case, citing a gag order. Ali-Haimoud's attorney, Kevin Ernst, called the indictment "incredibly imflamatory."

"The only purpose is to create this atmosphere of fear," Ernst said Thursday. Attorneys for Koubriti and Hmimssa did not return calls seeking comment.

The indictment alleges the men checked Detroit Metropolitan Airport for gaps in security. Ali-Haimoud was arrested again in April at an airport ice cream shop where he worked, beyond the security checkpoint.

Koubriti and Hannan briefly worked as dishwashers for a catering company at two Sky Chefs buildings near Detroit Metro, but their badges didn't give them access to the airport.

Koubriti lived briefly in Falls Church, Va., on the same street as two of the suspected Sept. 11 hijackers, according to court filings. He and Hannan came to the United States nearly two years ago from Morocco, according to their passports and green cards.

Thomas has said he believes the men met in Canton, Ohio, where both lived. He said Koubriti and Hannan moved to the Detroit area because of its large Arab population.

Hmimssa was arrested Sept. 28 in Cedar Rapids, Iowa. His photo and an alias were found on many of the false IDs in the Detroit apartment.

Federal officials had seen Hmimssa before - under a different name. Authorities learned he had been arrested May 23, 2001 by the Secret Service in Chicago and charged under the alias Patrick J. Vuillaume for allegedly stealing credit card numbers using a "skimming" device.

Ujaama's indictment in Seattle came weeks after he was arrested in Denver and held as a material witness in the terrorism investigation. He has maintained his innocence, and his lawyer has pressed prosecutors to either charge him or release him.

"If there's anything positive to come out of this, it renders some certainty to his situation," attorney Daniel Sears said Wednesday.

The indictment contends Ujaama, born James Ernest Thompson, led a conspiracy to set up a training camp in Bly, Ore. He was charged with conspiracy to provide material support and resources for al-Qaida and with using, carrying, possessing and discharging firearms during a crime.

Ujaama's community work has won him praise in his hometown. He once was given a key to the city of Seattle. And state lawmakers declared June 10, 1994, James Ujaama Day.

In a written statement, Ujaama accused the government of conducting a witch hunt.

"Should it be the policy of this government to convict innocent people before any hearing or before any trial?" Ujaama asked. "My constitutional rights, my civil liberties and my future have been grossly violated in a bid to seek political gain, not justice or truth."

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21 posted on 08/29/2002 11:52:48 AM PDT by Vets_Husband_and_Wife
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To: Bernard
FAMOUS, BUT INCOMPETENT.
26 posted on 08/29/2002 12:18:31 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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