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COLLEGE ADMISSION OFFICER IN VIRGINIA TELLS HISPANIC NEWSPAPER HOW ILLEGALS CAN GET AROUND SYSTEM
Washington Hispanic Newspaper (hard copy) ^ | 23 August 2002 | Mitzi Macias Dance, (in Spanish)

Posted on 08/29/2002 9:46:35 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo

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To: janetgreen
Eagles Up.

Same on this end. Let's see what happens. We should get law enforcement involved in this, too, if it is endemic corruption that leads to the top of the school (which it may in fact be). No time for this nonsense post 9-11! (or anytime for that matter)

21 posted on 08/29/2002 2:00:58 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: AmericanInTokyo; Brownie74
We have to support the politicians in office or going for office who really are against this kind of nonsense

But it won't be the Republicans, will it? They've been ordered by the party higher-ups not to mention illegal immigration in their campaigns. Maybe it's time for a revival of the Know Nothing Party

That was only about 20% sarcasm. The two major parties we have now are going to do NOTHING about illegals. The R's want the cheap labor, the D's want the cheap votes.

Yes, Brownie, the rules are:
Us -- pay taxes and shut up
everyone else -- collect and laugh at the fools paying the taxes

22 posted on 08/29/2002 5:37:15 PM PDT by SR71A
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To: Brownie74
Thanks my techy friend.

BTW ... I like your web page. Lots of excellent info for the shortwave/Ham neophyte.

23 posted on 08/30/2002 12:04:00 AM PDT by CIBvet
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To: AmericanInTokyo; sultan88; Mudboy Slim; Corin Stormhands; VaFederalist; GodBlessRonaldReagan
A Jerry-Kilgore-doin'-good ping!

Sep 07, 2002

Advice on aliens given

Kilgore urges colleges to report, reject those with no legal papers BY MICHAEL MARTZ
TIMES-DISPATCH STAFF WRITER

Attorney General Jerry W. Kilgore wants Virginia's public colleges and universities to make sure all students have a legal right to be in this country and to report them to law enforcement officials if they don't.

In a memorandum to all state higher education officials, the attorney general's office said the law does not require foreign students to prove their legal status to enroll but advised institutions not to enroll students who don't have legal documentation.

"As a matter of policy . . . the Attorney General is strongly of the view that illegal and undocumented aliens should not be admitted into our public colleges and universities at all, especially when doing so would displace a competing applicant who is an American citizen or otherwise lawfully present here," wrote Assistant Attorney General Alison P. Laundry in an opinion sent to higher education officials throughout the state on Thursday.

Laundry also said the attorney general "strongly encourages" all school officials and employees to report any evidence of illegal aliens on campus, even though the law does not require it unless a foreign student is violating the terms of a lawful visa to study at the institution. However, the opinion adds, states cannot prevent public employees from reporting illegal aliens on their own.

The opinion is being greeted by college officials with a mixture of gratitude and uncertainty. Some welcomed the specific guidance in the opinion on how to determine whether a foreign student is eligible for lower, in-state tuition, which is subsidized by state taxpayers.

Illegal immigrants are not eligible for in-state tuition, the opinion states. Nor are some immigrants who are living in Virginia legally, but whose visas do not allow them to live in the state indefinitely. The opinion attempts to distinguish between visa categories that do qualify for in-state subsidies and those that do not.

"We welcome some specificity on some of these issues. . . . There's a lot for us to chew on," said Dr. Max L. Bassett, vice president of academic and student services at Northern Virginia Community College.

The college's five campuses serve the most ethnically diverse region in Virginia. Last year, between 8,000 and 9,000 foreign citizens were enrolled in the college, which registered about 39,000 students for the fall semester that just began.

Bassett said he is not sure how the institution will respond to the attorney general's advice on policing federal immigration laws. "They think we should disenroll [undocumented aliens] and report them," he said. "We have not made a decision on that." [sheesh]

The attorney general's opinion may have grown partly out of an incident at one of the community college's campuses this year. The college registrar denied an application to enroll from a foreign man whose immigration visa had expired, Bassett said. An observer reported the incident to the attorney general's office because the registrar did not report the man to law enforcement authorities.

"What is our responsibility? . . . We never look to do a citizen's arrest or anything like that," Bassett said.

However, Kilgore said in an interview earlier this week that he is concerned that some colleges and universities may not be cooperating fully with law enforcement and immigration officials because of concerns about student privacy and confidentiality.

"There is an obligation for colleges to exercise due diligence. . . . We believe they need to cooperate with law enforcement officials who come looking for information," he said.

The issue may come to the Secure Virginia panel appointed by Gov. Mark R. Warner to help prepare the state against terrorist attack. Kilgore, who is chairman of the government operations subpanel, proposed this week to establish a standard for all colleges and universities in reporting criminal offenses to law enforcement authorities.

The General Assembly adopted a law this year that requires colleges and universities to report to the attorney general if a foreign student is not complying with his or her visa requirements by not enrolling in the institution or attending classes. The attorney general passes the information to the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service for enforcement.

Congress has imposed a similar requirement in federal law to take effect in January. The INS also has tightened its regulations to prevent anyone on a six-month visitor's visa from enrolling as a full-time student in a college or university in the United States.


Contact Michael Martz at (804) 649-6964 or mmartz@timesdispatch.com


Richmond Times-Dispatch
24 posted on 09/08/2002 2:59:36 PM PDT by Ligeia
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To: Ligeia; AmericanInTokyo; sultan88; Mudboy Slim; Corin Stormhands; VaFederalist; ...
I'll bet that article I translated (and the efforts of others here, including lurker-activists) had something to do with the Attorney General's action!!! ;-) EAGLES UP!!!
25 posted on 09/08/2002 4:07:50 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: AmericanInTokyo
No doubt about it. Great job and thanks!
26 posted on 09/08/2002 5:17:47 PM PDT by Ligeia
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To: AmericanInTokyo; Ligeia
"Attorney General Jerry W. Kilgore"

AG Kilgore will be the next great GOP Governor, IMHO...MUD

27 posted on 09/09/2002 2:49:29 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: AmericanInTokyo
"The weekly Spanish-language newspaper for the D.C. area, Washington Hispanic, does not think anyone is listening in, apparantly...."

"I'll bet that article I translated (and the efforts of others here, including lurker-activists) had something to do with the Attorney General's action!!!"

Excellent work, mi amigo...MUD

28 posted on 09/09/2002 2:53:21 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: Mudboy Slim; AmericanInTokyo
Activism does work, but it's also important to note the importance of having the right people in office to actually carry out what needs to be done. Obvious, I know, but it needs to be stated.
29 posted on 09/11/2002 2:52:46 PM PDT by Ligeia
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To: xsmommy
FYI.
30 posted on 09/11/2002 2:54:15 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Ligeia
Attorney General Kilgore will have my support as long as he does no become soft on this issue like many politicians have done lately. I have already let my sentiments be known to the President of NOVA of his registrars interview with the Hispanic media. Many of us in Virginia are watching the policies of the state and are going to make sure that Mark Warner does not go the way of Gray Davis in giving state benefits to illegal aliens. I expect Attorney General Jerry Kilgore to stay on the right side of the law and I am waiting for him to ask Attorney General John Ashcroft to deputize local law enforcement to arrest illegal aliens. We will not allow the state of Virginia to give in-state tuition to law-breakers and we will not allow driver's license for illegal aliens. Virginia is partially responsible for the terrorist of 9-11 being able to board those planes by giving them ids, so it would be political suicide to suggest giving benefits to terrorist, illegal aliens and law-breakers.
31 posted on 09/11/2002 3:14:44 PM PDT by healey22
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To: Ligeia
"Activism does work, but it's also important to note the importance of having the right people in office..."

Yep...and they also work well in tandem. Fer instance, no matter how much we write, call, fax, and publicly-protest the DemonRATS, they're gonna ignore US RightWingWhackos!! However, while RINOs will disappoint us time and again, they can be swayed by our activism because GOPers don't need the hassle of the RightWing abandoning them.

FReegards...MUD

32 posted on 09/12/2002 6:39:19 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Here's a less choppy translation:
According to Mariella Abanto, director of program of NOVA, the institution does not have authorization to report to students before the INS. Before the occurance of September 11,, students could matriculate by just showing his [lit. the] passport, but today the process is more complicated. For this reason, Mariella Abanto recommends filling the formulas and in the space where it asks [for] the social security number, simply leave it blank and if asked for a passport, show it. Admissions officers [lit. those of admission] are very protective with the information they are provided. but they cannot register you for credit-bearing courses [lit. courses with credit] from NOBA, they can register [you] for the program of non-credit-bearing courses [lit. courses without credit]. To be admitted into these courses, there is no legal requirement about immigrant status, all that is needed is to have a desire to study and gain value from the course.

33 posted on 09/12/2002 6:58:05 AM PDT by jude24
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To: Mudboy Slim
I like Kilgore better as each day goes by. Now he's calling for the execution of a terrorist on Nov. 7.
34 posted on 09/12/2002 9:33:39 AM PDT by Ligeia
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To: Ligeia
"I like Kilgore better as each day goes by..."

Yep...he'll be VA's next Governor. That is, if Mr. Ed doesn't get drummed outta office due to a scandal relating to his business dealings in the Telecom Industry (don't believe for a second that there isn't evidence out there that ties him to some of these existing scandals, my FRiend).

FReegards...MUD

35 posted on 09/12/2002 10:12:05 AM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: Mudboy Slim
Do you think Warner is corrupt? I've never heard anyone charge him with impropriety.
36 posted on 09/12/2002 12:49:31 PM PDT by Ligeia
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To: Ligeia
"Do you think Warner is corrupt?"

I'm convinced he is...I just can't prove it yet...LOL!!

"I've never heard anyone charge him with impropriety."

The guy made his millions in the Telecom industry by buying influence in a number of States' decision processes for licensing agreements for CellPhone coverage. He set up multiple shadow corporations to make multiple bids on individual licenses, then apportioned them out to his private investors. I'm sure the evidence is out there, but I haven't made the time to go diggin'. Fact is, I expect to find out that his list of investors has got to be a "Who's Who" of the same ol' characters who are in bed with Slick Willie. IMHO, he's a "made man" in the DemonRAT Establishment and we need to uncover the Truth before he runs for Senator later this decade.

FReegards...MUD

37 posted on 09/12/2002 1:06:00 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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bump
38 posted on 09/13/2002 10:57:47 AM PDT by dennisw
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