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ENGLISH (BABELFISH) TEXT: "According to Ms. Mariella Abanto, assistant in the registrar office of Northern Virginia Community College (NOVA), the college does not have any have any requirement/authorization to report (foreign) students to the Immigration and Naturalization Service--INS. Before the occurences of September 11th the students who wanted to register for classes simply had to show their passport. But in these days the process has become complicated. For this reason, Mariella Abanto recommends for the students to just fill out the forms as normal, and when you come to the space that solicits your social security number (SSN) leave it blank. If you are requested to show a passport, just show it. Those in Admissions are very protective with the information they are provided. However, they won't be able to register for credit classes, but can register for non-credits at NOVA.....To be admitted to these NOVA courses, there is not a single legal requirement as far as 'migratory status' is concerned, just a desire to study and value for the course."

1 posted on 08/29/2002 9:46:35 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Hmmm. They won't be able to get credit, but they'll be bodies in the classroom. Guess this is designed to keep that faculty busy.....
2 posted on 08/29/2002 9:54:34 AM PDT by CatoRenasci
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To: madfly; FreedomFriend; Tancredo Fan
ping
3 posted on 08/29/2002 9:55:55 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: AmericanInTokyo
bump your good find
4 posted on 08/29/2002 10:11:20 AM PDT by rface
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To: Free the USA; Fish out of Water; Helix; backhoe; Tancredo Fan; Brownie74; bok; 4Freedom; ...
College shows aliens the ropes. ping
5 posted on 08/29/2002 10:32:51 AM PDT by madfly
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Mariella Abanto recommends

I would say that advising someone to participate in an illegal activity is certainly grounds for disciplinary action, wouldn't you?

Charles L. Downs
Interim President
Northern Virginia Community College
4001 Wakefield Chapel Road
Annandale, VA 22003-3723
(703) 323-3101 or (703) 323-3564
Email: cdowns@nvcc.edu

15 posted on 08/29/2002 1:15:46 PM PDT by mhking
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To: AmericanInTokyo; sultan88; Mudboy Slim; Corin Stormhands; VaFederalist; GodBlessRonaldReagan
A Jerry-Kilgore-doin'-good ping!

Sep 07, 2002

Advice on aliens given

Kilgore urges colleges to report, reject those with no legal papers BY MICHAEL MARTZ
TIMES-DISPATCH STAFF WRITER

Attorney General Jerry W. Kilgore wants Virginia's public colleges and universities to make sure all students have a legal right to be in this country and to report them to law enforcement officials if they don't.

In a memorandum to all state higher education officials, the attorney general's office said the law does not require foreign students to prove their legal status to enroll but advised institutions not to enroll students who don't have legal documentation.

"As a matter of policy . . . the Attorney General is strongly of the view that illegal and undocumented aliens should not be admitted into our public colleges and universities at all, especially when doing so would displace a competing applicant who is an American citizen or otherwise lawfully present here," wrote Assistant Attorney General Alison P. Laundry in an opinion sent to higher education officials throughout the state on Thursday.

Laundry also said the attorney general "strongly encourages" all school officials and employees to report any evidence of illegal aliens on campus, even though the law does not require it unless a foreign student is violating the terms of a lawful visa to study at the institution. However, the opinion adds, states cannot prevent public employees from reporting illegal aliens on their own.

The opinion is being greeted by college officials with a mixture of gratitude and uncertainty. Some welcomed the specific guidance in the opinion on how to determine whether a foreign student is eligible for lower, in-state tuition, which is subsidized by state taxpayers.

Illegal immigrants are not eligible for in-state tuition, the opinion states. Nor are some immigrants who are living in Virginia legally, but whose visas do not allow them to live in the state indefinitely. The opinion attempts to distinguish between visa categories that do qualify for in-state subsidies and those that do not.

"We welcome some specificity on some of these issues. . . . There's a lot for us to chew on," said Dr. Max L. Bassett, vice president of academic and student services at Northern Virginia Community College.

The college's five campuses serve the most ethnically diverse region in Virginia. Last year, between 8,000 and 9,000 foreign citizens were enrolled in the college, which registered about 39,000 students for the fall semester that just began.

Bassett said he is not sure how the institution will respond to the attorney general's advice on policing federal immigration laws. "They think we should disenroll [undocumented aliens] and report them," he said. "We have not made a decision on that." [sheesh]

The attorney general's opinion may have grown partly out of an incident at one of the community college's campuses this year. The college registrar denied an application to enroll from a foreign man whose immigration visa had expired, Bassett said. An observer reported the incident to the attorney general's office because the registrar did not report the man to law enforcement authorities.

"What is our responsibility? . . . We never look to do a citizen's arrest or anything like that," Bassett said.

However, Kilgore said in an interview earlier this week that he is concerned that some colleges and universities may not be cooperating fully with law enforcement and immigration officials because of concerns about student privacy and confidentiality.

"There is an obligation for colleges to exercise due diligence. . . . We believe they need to cooperate with law enforcement officials who come looking for information," he said.

The issue may come to the Secure Virginia panel appointed by Gov. Mark R. Warner to help prepare the state against terrorist attack. Kilgore, who is chairman of the government operations subpanel, proposed this week to establish a standard for all colleges and universities in reporting criminal offenses to law enforcement authorities.

The General Assembly adopted a law this year that requires colleges and universities to report to the attorney general if a foreign student is not complying with his or her visa requirements by not enrolling in the institution or attending classes. The attorney general passes the information to the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service for enforcement.

Congress has imposed a similar requirement in federal law to take effect in January. The INS also has tightened its regulations to prevent anyone on a six-month visitor's visa from enrolling as a full-time student in a college or university in the United States.


Contact Michael Martz at (804) 649-6964 or mmartz@timesdispatch.com


Richmond Times-Dispatch
24 posted on 09/08/2002 2:59:36 PM PDT by Ligeia
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Here's a less choppy translation:
According to Mariella Abanto, director of program of NOVA, the institution does not have authorization to report to students before the INS. Before the occurance of September 11,, students could matriculate by just showing his [lit. the] passport, but today the process is more complicated. For this reason, Mariella Abanto recommends filling the formulas and in the space where it asks [for] the social security number, simply leave it blank and if asked for a passport, show it. Admissions officers [lit. those of admission] are very protective with the information they are provided. but they cannot register you for credit-bearing courses [lit. courses with credit] from NOBA, they can register [you] for the program of non-credit-bearing courses [lit. courses without credit]. To be admitted into these courses, there is no legal requirement about immigrant status, all that is needed is to have a desire to study and gain value from the course.

33 posted on 09/12/2002 6:58:05 AM PDT by jude24
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bump
38 posted on 09/13/2002 10:57:47 AM PDT by dennisw
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