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To: schmelvin
If all the information and arguments contained in this article are so bogus, why are so many people, yourself included SO concerned with it, since its so OBVIOUSLY all untrue?

I'm not sure I ever said I supported everything the article states. I'm not aware that was ever a requirement for posting here. If it is, it will make thios a sterile, boring, useless forum. I posted it because the people behind this report seem to have some knowledge based on their alleged backgrounds to make a case. Also it was reported by a fairly substantial size publication, The Portugal News, one of the very few publications to inform its readers that the Bilderberg Conference was going to be held in Portugal 2 years ago and what it deals with. American newspapers lavish attention on the G-8 conferences and deliberately ignore the Bilderberg, even though its composed of some of the most influential and powerful leaders and newmakers in the world. I guess you would consider that to be not suitable for this forum either.

As to my "defense" of this "torn to shreds" article, I have attacked only some of the most illogical non-thinking kneejerk statements made.

1. I dont know if the planes were remote controlled, but the technology exists. It was tested over the Pacific Ocean.

2. Why are none of the hijackers listed on the passenger lists? No one has bothered answering this.

3. If you doubt that people in high positions of power aren't capable of being involved in this I have a few questions for you:

Was FDR aware of Pearl Harbor attack and did he let it go forward? Most historians would now say yes. Was it planned long in advance? Secretary of State Cordell Hull said as much.

Have we manipulated politics to cause wars in the past? Yes. Spanish-American War was with the sinkling of the Maine. Pearl Harbor. The communists were induced to attack by our governments statements, much like Hussain attacked Kuwait after April Glaspie said we wouldn't defend it.

Then there is Operation Northwoods. You can read the actual documents, the plan put together by the Joint Chiefs to set Cuba up to take the fall for an attack on America to be launched by the US Military, including blowing up and shooting down commercial airliners and blaming it on Cuba as a pretext to invade it! That's public record. JFK nixed it, thank God.

There is a lot of smoke to indicate a fire exists. Take all the record put options put on the airline and insurance stocks....just happened to be American and United airlines only. Gee, where'd that investigation go?

Look at the close connections of the Bush family and the Bin-Ladins. Look at the alleged hijackers. 15 of the 19 came from Saudi and none of them were particularly religious, they were all rich. just like Bin-Laden. A rich playboy who finds God. And hijackers who apparently didn't know the end result of their mission. And an administration already on Cipro the night of the attacks.

No I'm not out of line to ask questions with stories that have a million holes in them, like the official version.

Why not just release the recording or transcript of the flight recorder flight 93? Because their arrogant and they know people like you will just buy anything rather than be labelled a kook.

I'm reminded of Thoreau when confronted at jail by his friend Ralph Waldo Emerson. "What are you doing in there, Henry?" "No, Ralph the question is, what you doing out there?".


107 posted on 08/29/2002 7:07:41 PM PDT by DrLiberty
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To: DrLiberty
2. Why are none of the hijackers listed on the passenger lists? No one has bothered answering this.

They were. They were on the passenger manifests. One flight attendant identified them while talking to her airline base. They used credit cards.

118 posted on 08/29/2002 8:09:34 PM PDT by bootless
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To: DrLiberty
Any reply to post #107, Schmelvin?
127 posted on 08/29/2002 8:26:45 PM PDT by DrLiberty
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To: DrLiberty
Why are none of the hijackers listed on the passenger lists

Atta shows up on a surveillance camera at an airport that day. (As well as having his name on the original passenger list). We know he was flying somewhere.

If he wasn't on one of those doomed flights, and is still alive, he should notify his family so they don't feel they have to "defend" him any more.

142 posted on 08/30/2002 7:42:11 AM PDT by syriacus
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