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James Webbofffers some insights on a subject he has earned the right to speak of.
1 posted on 08/30/2002 12:02:00 PM PDT by robowombat
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Re bloodstripe/red officer/nco stripe....

Please note the following by the former Chief Historian, HQMC; see also The Marines, by BGen Edwin Simmons, etc.

"Ben Frank Reply-To : "Scuttlebutt & Small Chow USMC History List"

To : "Scuttlebutt & Small Chow USMC History List"

Subject : Re: NCO blood stripe

Date : Tue, 9 Nov 1999 20:52:14 -0500

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The statement that the red stripe on dress blue trousers was a "blood" stripe commemorating the Marines killed in the battle for Chapultepec in Mexico City in 1847 is a long-perpetuated myth passed on to generations of boots by their DIs.

It simply is not true. To quote LtCol Charlie Cureton in "The Marines," the wearing of stripes on trousers began in 1834, following the Army's practice of having trouser stripes the color of the facings of uniform jackets.

Colonel Commandant Archibald Henderson prescribed buff-white stripes for officers and sergeants. When, in 1839, the uniform changed to dark blue coats faced red, officers' trousers' stripes became dark blue edged in red.

Ten years later the stripes changed to red, and over the years, there were variations. Finally, in 1904, the simple red stripe was adopted. BMF

Benis M. Frank"

2 posted on 08/30/2002 1:40:21 PM PDT by gunnyg
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I spent my tour with the 9th Inf Div/Mobile Riverine Force as a grunt and a combat medic. We spent days and nights slogging through rice paddies canals and crossing rivers...we came off our patrols with bleeding weeping sores from the waste down..There was no cure no prevention...often these sores became infected with staph (we had a couple of troops evacuated to Japan one had a leg amputated)...we had to scrub them with surgerical soap till they bled and them let them dry in the sun...as the flies landed on them...and just as they would start to heal it was back in the paddies canals and rivers. Ive seen guys covered head to foot with ring worm..we all had dysentary and on patrols things got quite messy...with river crossings the only opportunity to avail ourselves of hygiene...
Women in combat ..not my little girls..
http://pub39.ezboard.com/b6thbattalionofthe31stinfantry Web site of one of the units I am proud to have served with.
3 posted on 08/30/2002 2:57:09 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: robowombat
James Webb, like Bob Dole, speaks of himself in the third person---strange, indeed.
6 posted on 08/31/2002 2:17:28 AM PDT by Rudder
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