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Sweden's links to radical Islam
Times Online ^ | Augustus 30 2002 | Roger Boyes

Posted on 08/30/2002 4:38:30 PM PDT by knighthawk

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To: BeAllYouCanBe
"Since most of the Muslims have Swedish citizenship however, there is little that can be done in terms of monitoring their movements."

Agree with you that this is ridiculous. I think we've all had enough of the "Better Dead Than Rude" PC pablum. However, I don't agree that "The West has lost". It's time to just get real. Our country was not founded on the premise that no man shall never be offended. In real life, people are offended on occasion....and they get over it.

21 posted on 08/30/2002 6:14:15 PM PDT by ASP
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To: BeAllYouCanBe
"So if you look at the Crusades as a black mark against Christianity you need to look a lot deeper and ask some questions: ..."

As Christianity of that period was limited solely to the Catholic Church, though the Eastern Orthodox had started to rear its head -

The other Christian organizations were never even considered as the brunt of blame for agressive acts of the Vatican.
22 posted on 08/30/2002 6:19:27 PM PDT by SEGUET
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To: ASP
The west hasn't even woke up yet to the threat of expansionist islam. But it will.
23 posted on 08/30/2002 6:19:54 PM PDT by flyer182
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To: flyer182
"Want to bet the next crusades are more successful."

No, but I will bet you that the next crusades will last 3 times as long as the last one - if you include the time that our 50,000 troops and suuport people will spend on "Neighborhood Watch"

Vegas is giving that one 35-6 for our involvement to be longer than the first Crusades -

Got any of that old Enron or Haliburton stock sitting around - cash it in and jump on this boat race.
24 posted on 08/30/2002 6:26:44 PM PDT by SEGUET
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To: denydenydeny
"There you are - I knew you couldn't stay under the tarp for too long.
25 posted on 08/30/2002 6:28:58 PM PDT by SEGUET
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To: knighthawk
The CDC is investigating an outbreak of tularemia in Sweden which took place a couple of years ago, but is only now being published. Tularemia is one of the "must report" diseases for U.S. physicians.

"A widespread outbreak of tularemia in Sweden in 2000 was investigated in a case-control study in which 270 reported cases of tularemia were compared with 438 controls. The outbreak affected parts of Sweden where tularemia had hitherto been rare, and these “emergent” areas were compared with the disease-endemic areas....In the 2000 epidemic, cases occurred in places where tularemia had rarely been reported."

See last entry under "Research":      The 2000 Tularemia Outbreak: A Case-Control Study of Risk Factors in Disease-Endemic and Emergent Areas, Sweden
26 posted on 08/30/2002 6:31:03 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: SEGUET
"other Christian organizations
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This has nothing to do with my answer to you. You are ranting and spilling typical leftist nonsense.

Take note; If you don't respond to posts directly about the issue then people will ignore you on Free Republic.

We are here to share ideas and discuss the issues. If you want to bash the Catholic Church there are better threads to do it on.

If you think that intelligent people here will debate college learned brain-washing go back to school!

27 posted on 08/30/2002 6:34:08 PM PDT by BeAllYouCanBe
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To: BeAllYouCanBe
Simply stated then -

the Crusades could not have been a mark against "Christianity" as only the Catholic church existed at the time -

The late players to the religious arena were not outed (did not come along) for many years -

That is not bashing the Catholic church - but they were the only game in town - unless you count the Druids.

28 posted on 08/30/2002 6:43:52 PM PDT by SEGUET
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To: SEGUET
"Replace that with "US links to radical Christianity" and you could talk about McVey. He was a Christian you know."

No, I don't know. He may have claimed to be like a lot of people do.

29 posted on 08/30/2002 7:05:46 PM PDT by nightdriver
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To: nightdriver
"No, I don't know. He may have claimed to be like a lot of people do."

I'll drink to that - all the church going and reciting the words sure don't make you one - and their is only one time and one being that can say you are - and when he does there is no one around to turn to and say "I told you so".
30 posted on 08/30/2002 7:12:14 PM PDT by SEGUET
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To: flyer182
"The actions of the PLO were not organizied to further a religion but the palestianian cause."

Well there you go - what is one man's islamic whacko is another man's political extremist -

I guess that can apply to political parties in this country - some just hold the whacko's in great esteem while others just figue their neo-extremists.

Go figure.
31 posted on 08/30/2002 7:18:44 PM PDT by SEGUET
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To: SEGUET
and when he does there is no one around to turn to and say "I told you so".

(?) And your point is...?

32 posted on 08/30/2002 7:23:27 PM PDT by nightdriver
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To: SEGUET
Blah blah blah blah. Moral relativism, must make you proud.
How ever long it takes to crush a culture that gives us the folks who call themselves islamics.
33 posted on 08/30/2002 8:03:05 PM PDT by flyer182
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To: knighthawk
Thanks for the ping. I'm interested to see what comes out of all this. The Brits have four days to question their hijacker. Hopefully they can get some names out of him and something to go on. We've got to start cleaning this nest of snakes out and Sweden is as likely a place to start as anywhere else (although I won't be holding my breath waiting for the Swedes to get really outraged over this incident).
34 posted on 08/30/2002 8:33:46 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: knighthawk
250,000 Mohammdeans out of a population of roughly 8 or 9 million is not as bad as it could be, I suppose. But it's still about 249,998 too many. I am sure that there are a couple of good Mohammedeans over there.;)
35 posted on 08/30/2002 8:46:50 PM PDT by Phillip Augustus
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To: SEGUET
No, he was not. He was raised in the Faith, but became an agnostic, up until he requested last rites prior to the execution.
36 posted on 08/30/2002 8:48:12 PM PDT by Phillip Augustus
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To: SEGUET
The Crusades were justified. The Crusades were a reasonable, justifiable Christian response to nearly 450 years of Mohammedean agression. But for the Mooslim aggression that began at the inception of the "religion", the Crusades would not have occured, since the Holy Land, North Africa, and the Iberian Peninsula would not have been invaded by the Mohammdeans.
37 posted on 08/30/2002 8:50:37 PM PDT by Phillip Augustus
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To: knighthawk
Wait until people in Europe and America come to grips with "the 2nd generation effect". Sons of muslim immigrants who seek out radical islam in rebellion to their sinful 'westernized' fathers. These kids will be the worst of all.
38 posted on 08/30/2002 9:02:45 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Phillip Augustus
"...up until he requested last rites prior to the execution. "

He was in the beginning - dropped out in the middle and came back at the end - I'd say that describes the majority of Christians who et away from their faith and come back to it.

If that weren't the case - we'd have a tremendous shortage of churchs when in deed we don't nearly fill the ones we have.

39 posted on 08/30/2002 9:04:14 PM PDT by SEGUET
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To: Phillip Augustus
"The Crusades were justified."

At that time and under those circumstances I couldn't agree with your more - I don't believe I've seen that level of agression by Iraq lately.
40 posted on 08/30/2002 9:14:14 PM PDT by SEGUET
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