Sweden's links to radical Islam

Times Online ^ | Augustus 30 2002 | Roger Boyes

[Teacher317]

"The Crusades were justified."
At that time and under those circumstances I couldn't agree with your more - I don't believe I've seen that level of agression by Iraq lately.

At least you are honest in admitting that you want to see millions of dead Americans before you'll consider Saddam as a justified target. However, with the wisdom we learned from Chamberlain's policy of appeasement, we know with certainty that Evil Tyrants are simply encouraged by the kind of cowardly inaction that you support. Saddam has

• gassed entire villages of his own people,
• has invaded weaker neighbors in search of wealth and resources,
• has "rattled his sabre" at the US repeatedly,
• has organized massive anti-US protests chanting for "Death to America",
• pays the families of suicide-bombers for killing innocent civilians in other nations (and Americans have been killed there as well),
• harbors known terrorists (Abu Nidal is a glaring example),
• and refuses to allow weapons inspectors to verify that he has not stock-piled weapons that would destroy massive numbers of innocent civilians.

In other words, he is an Evil Tyrant bent on acquisition-through-warfare and murdering civilians he does not like, just as Hitler was. Therefore, an attack on Saddam is totally justified. I can only hope that when war begins in earnest, you will continue to make the same moronic statements and are imprisoned for sedition.

[SEGUET]

"Even if McVeigh had literally said, "I do this in Christ's Holy name",
1) he still would not have been following basic Christian tenets.
2) He could not possibly have used the Bible to argue that the Almighty would reward him specifically for that act. Likewise,
3) his actions were condemned by Christians everywhere, as they wept and expressed shock and regret.

Your sophmoric attempt at moral equivalence won't fool anyone around here."

He was given absolution for his acts - that is the tenet of the Catholic church - no moral equivalence here - just the simple proof that the man - regardless of his life and deeds - if sincere ( and I can't imagine anyone in his predicament not being) died a Christian and was forgiven for his crimes by his God -

Thank goodness he didn't ask you for absolution - for you obviously are not one who can find it in your heart to forgive - what a strange Christian doctrine you say - how could I forgive a Tim McVeigh or a Bill Clinton -

Hey - they are hard rules but fair rules - if you practice what you preach find forgiveness in your heart for the follies of man - who ever "man" is.

[SEGUET]

"Have you ever wondered -- why the US Government executed McVeigh so expeditiously?"

I know why - they had some of that old "TEXAS Put-em-to-death- serum" that was past its "use-by" date - cable carried the execution to the Austin Governors mansion -

Go figure.

[Travis McGee]

Mohamed Atta and company's drinking and lapdancing the night before the attacks does NOT mean he was a 'bad Muslim'.

This is part of a centuries old Muslim tradition, where prospective "martyrs" are given a big "bachelor party" just before the operation. This is to get them whipped into a fever to "martyr" themselves, to give them a taste of the 72 virgins and fountains of wine awaiting them in Allah's "big whorehouse in the sky Paradaise".

They have been doing this at least since the era of the "assassins" which is derived from "hashish", from the stoned orgy parties the "martyrs" got before setting out on their missions. After these pre mission parties, with wine, hashish and girls, the "martyrs" go rushing for death, eager to cross to the "other side" and get to their eternal drunken orgy which they believe the Koran promises them.

I kid you not.

[Travis McGee]

Most in the USA who do not live in Muslim self generated ghettos (I don't mean income, I mean self segregation) will hopefully assimilate.

But we must be aware of the "2nd genteration fanatic" phenomenon, where the normal teenage rebellion against the (moderate assimilating) father is expressed as a return to fanatical Muslim observance, which is often expressed by a journey to Jihad.

[SEGUET]

"... eager to cross to the "other side" and get to their eternal drunken orgy which they believe the Koran promises them.

I kid you not. "

Well why is it in New Orleans they wait until you pass and then those old dogs party-down AFTER your gone - who has got it right?

[SEGUET]

Guillermo AKA Billy AKA Billie AKA Gunga Billy -

Where for art thou brother - you didn't go AWOL - cancel your IPO, pack up our stuff in cardboard boxes (waterproof) and disappear on us did you -

Hey if you don't want to show me the papers now we can wait until your picked up - talk to us that's all we ask - we'll go easy on you - anybody can take a wrong term and find themselves on the other side of a river -


Paleeez -

Your Old Bud -

SEGUET

[Travis McGee]

Was that an attempt at humor?

[dennisw]

McVey is as Christian as Atta was a Muslim. In the biographies I've read say McVey was raised as a Catholic by his parents but rejected Christianity.

Muhammad Atta lived with Muslims and lived the Jihadist life. He hung out in Mosques where he met other Jihadists. He trained for a Muslim suicide bombing mission to murder non-Muslims. Just like the bomb happy Palestinians. Muhammad Atta is about as Muslim as one can get

Atta had a lap dance the night before he left for the 9-11 disaster.

So what? That's supposed to mean he wasn't an Islamic psycho killer? How absurd....

 

 

[SEGUET]

"Was that an attempt at humor?"

No comparative analysis - not relavent to anything that matters - sort of like the old Billie Clinton - GW comparisons I see around from time to time - They don't mean a thing but it sure makes the author feel a lot better and intelligent, and witty and really on the inside of what's neat around here.

[SEGUET]

"I can only hope that when war begins in earnest, you will continue to make the same moronic statements and are imprisoned for sedition. "

I'll just turn myself in now:

But before I go -

"gassed entire villages of his own people, "

Don't tell this to an American Indians - ooops that was pre-gas wan;'t it - One for you.

"has invaded weaker neighbors in search of wealth and resources,"

The Bay of Pigs comes to mind

"has "rattled his sabre" at the ___(fill in the Blank) repeatedly - you got me there

has organized massive anti-US protests chanting for "Death to America", - You got me there too.


pays the families of suicide-bombers for killing innocent civilians in other nations (and Americans have been killed there as well), and there too


"harbors known terrorists (Abu Nidal is a glaring example),-
Not glaring anymore - though we do it also and don't even know that they are in the country - If they register for school we just bring them right in - I sort of opt for harboring - which would mean that they would fess up to being what they are and then we say ok - as opposed to inviting them in as students, losing track of them, not being able to follow their bank accounts and having them cause havoc - one for me

"refuses to allow weapons inspectors to verify that he has not stock-piled weapons that would destroy massive numbers of innocent civilians" - he does need to clean up his invitation process and be much more forthcoming to the inspectors - one more for yo

Beat me again - your so good - your arguments for total justification however will not make it happen - I would think his contiguous neighbors, whom are not to jazzed about it have a different view - it really won't effect your little world if it does - you can consider yourself as a prophet of sorts.

[SEGUET]

""I can only hope that when war begins in earnest,...."


According to GW war HAS begun in ernest just not against IRAQ - but I suppose your referring to the declaration of war by Congress which as you know is required under the Constitution, before we can start one of those damn things - in each case it occured only AFTER we were attacked. We've had very few of those thank God - According to TJ and the Found. Fthrs. they left it up to our Congressional Representatives not the President -

They are sure going to be rounding up a lot of us on that sedition thing - about 49% of the population according to the last poll.

[tictoc]

Two even wanted to fight against the US in Afghanistan, but were unable to cross the border. So they decided to go to Kashmir and were shot by the Indian border partol for attacking them with knives.

Thanks for a chuckle.

tictoc (grateful for small favors)

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Bomb Sweden!

[knighthawk]

Maybe they are laughing now. Being in paradise, drinking whine and doing things with eternal virgins and 'boys looking like pearls' being a martyr and all.

[justshutupandtakeit]

How nice and duplicitous. McVeigh never claimed to be killing in the name of God nor did he claim to be a Christian. Quite likely he had Moslemaniac assistance in his deed.

[Michael2001]

I must've missed the millions of Christians dancing in the streets after OKC, and McVeighs call for a Christian holy war.

[Michael2001]

McVey is as Christian as Atta was a Muslim. In the biographies I've read say McVey was raised as a Catholic by his parents but rejected Christianity. Atta had a lap dance the night before he left for the 9-11 disaster.

They believed killing Infidels would clear them of all their sins