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To: chance33_98
I'm really asking for it with this one, but I think it needs to be said. I don't think this is a ignorable news item. Here's what I'm seeing.

A greater and greater percentage of the country are having problems with what Bush and Ashcroft are doing, including lots of FReepers. Now we're not about to start backing Jesse and NOW and the whole lot.

But someone who isn't as politically aware, and who doesn't know what NOW was and is, and what Jesse has done and is capable of, might look at the above news clip, and if they are already having problems with what's going on in this country, see these groups as their friends, and put all of that rabble-rousing talk about "race hustler" and "feminazis" in the discard pile.

I trust I don't have to explain why that's a problem. NOW right now has lost a lot of its power due to their unholy alliance with our past (insert-your-favorite-sex-crime-perpetrator-description) in chief. If they and PUSH manage to tie their name to something that people agree with, they could very well get people to forget about their past transgressions and start trusting them again, and from that start weilding real political power again.

So what am I saying here he should do in return?

Like a lot of political debates, I'm seeing signs in this one of people calling all anti-terrorism efforts across the board either an intolerable infringement or a necessary protection. I understand both arguments, but that kind of adamancy can let reasonable debate slip through the cracks, and if we don't pick it up, it's clear the left will (well, at least something that their followers will consider "reasonable").

So what I think I'm saying is that in order to combat this, we need to continually keep a clear focus of what is going on in this country, and not get overly dogmatic with each other regarding what we should do, and that includes our discussions here. In other words, don't either oppose or accept any individual efforts on the part of the feds just on face value, but clearly examine each one, and not label anyone here who disagrees with you. This is not an easy issue, and needs to really be approached with as much clarity as possible.

Sorry for the long rant, it's just that I like the fact that NOW and PUSH have returned to being sideshows, and don't want to see that change. If we don't play this one right, it very well could.

5 posted on 08/31/2002 10:19:36 AM PDT by pupdog
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To: pupdog
Sorry for the long rant, it's just that I like the fact that NOW and PUSH have returned to being sideshows, and don't want to see that change. If we don't play this one right, it very well could.

I understand that. They are joining a group to protest decreasing rights in this country, and we are all for more rights - yet on the other hand they want to limit the rights of others using their own agenda. This is another way for them to play a victim, although this time it has an air of legimatcy to it - instead of flaty talking about women's rights they now say they are worried about everyone's rights (unless your a clinton rape victim).

I also find the timing of the march a little interesting. All the things going on 9/11 will be wrapping up and the news may be searching for something new to cover the days following. If I were able to be there freeping I would hold a sign up mentioning something about their blatant hypocrisy. But they are idiots, and if there is one thing I despise in this world is gross stupidity, which they excel at. The hole they are digging for this country is so deep I fear it may someday reach down to hell itself (and I mean all liberals in that, not just Now).

6 posted on 08/31/2002 11:26:44 AM PDT by chance33_98
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