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World summit hears clamour of protest (IDIOT LEFTIES ON PARADE)
BBC News ^ | August 31, 2002 | BBC News

Posted on 08/31/2002 1:06:08 PM PDT by MadIvan

Thousands of demonstrators have marched to the World Development Summit venue in Johannesburg, in the first mass protest to take place since it opened on Monday.

Singing apartheid-era songs, an estimated 20,000 people protesting about issues ranging from Aids to globalisation, arrived at the convention centre in the rich white suburb of Sandton from the shanty township of Alexandra.

At their head were some of the most radical groups - Muslims marching in support of the Palestinians, and members of the Landless People's Movement, demonstrating for jobs, land and everything they say they were promised before the change of government in South Africa.

Police were out in force, with helicopters, dogs and water canon, but there had been no sign of any serious trouble by the time the rally began to break up.

South African President Thabo Mbeki, at a separate pro-government rally, described the eight kilometre (five mile) route taken by the march as a symbol of the "global apartheid" between rich and poor.

"We must liberate the poor of the world from poverty," he said. "It is easy for all of us to agree on nice words. Now has come the time for action."

Mr Mbeki did not join the main march and discouraged his ministers from doing so, for fear that radical protesters may cause violence.

Defiant messages

A small wooden platform set up just outside the perimeter as a speaker's corner, was used as the stage for protest leaders to make their points within earshot of the delegates inside.

"Hello Sandton!...It's a pity you're barricaded, preventing us from coming in and showing you the real world!" organiser Virginia Setshedi yelled across the razor wire at the convention building.

The crowd sang and danced as they waved banners with messages which included "Factory gases and waste are killing", "Hands off Iraq", "Globalise the Intifada", "Stop Thabo Mbeki's Aids genocide" and even "Osama bin Laden - Bomb Sandton".

Many chanted anti-American slogans and bore banners ridiculing US President George W Bush.

"What is the summit doing for us? It is providing for the rich, not the poor," protester Mathius Ledwaba told the Associated Press.

Unresolved issues

Inside the convention centre, meetings were going on to try to resolve fundamental differences between rich and poor nations.

There is concern that these will prevent delegates from approving a draft document before heads of state arrive next week.

Some representatives believe that if the final plan of action is not agreed by 4 September, when the summit is due to end, discussions could drag on for several more days.

Keen to avert a deadlock, South Africa - the summit host - has put forward a list of seven topics it says delegates should now focus on.


US intransigence is being seen by European countries as a key problem of the summit.

Washington is refusing to contemplate binding targets for introducing renewable energy technologies like wind and solar power, which do not pollute the planet.

Greenpeace has accused the US and Japan of horse-trading behind closed doors.

US delegates, it alleged, were offering to promote access to clean water in exchange for Japan supporting a removal of renewable energy targets.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: barmy; earthsummit; lefties; protest
Here are the protestors:

Morons, idiots and fools the lot of them. Perhaps we ought to do a surgical strike on these people. I feel nothing but contempt, scorn and anger at their protest.

Regards, Ivan

1 posted on 08/31/2002 1:06:08 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: Dog; Desdemona; texasbluebell; Amelia; nopardons; general_re; dighton; alisasny; Cacique; alfa6; ...
Bump!
2 posted on 08/31/2002 1:06:38 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
Every one of these folks thinks he/she deserves that same basket full of cash from the wealthy nations that evry UN employee and politician gets under the table. These are the democrats of the world. They believe they are entitled to what others have earned simply because they don't have what others have. These folks, specifically, would have been so much better off today had their ancestors been rescued by black/Arab slavers and predacious Europeans and taken to America.
3 posted on 08/31/2002 1:11:36 PM PDT by Tacis
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To: MadIvan
Classic Gramsci. The Summit delegates applying pressure from above and the street activists applying pressure from below.
4 posted on 08/31/2002 1:12:19 PM PDT by Commander8
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To: Tacis
They believe they are entitled to what others have earned simply because they don't have what others have.

Precisely why I find them hideously disgusting. Also why I find the delegates at the UN Summit hideously disgusting too.

Regards, Ivan

5 posted on 08/31/2002 1:13:55 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: All
From the Telegraph:

Thousands protest at World Summit

About 10,000 protesters have marched on the World Summit in South Africa to press demands ranging from land redistribution to a Palestinian state.

Environmentalists, anti-globalisation protesters, social activists and Palestinian supporters danced, sang and shouted their way to the Sandton suburb of Johannesburg where the summit is taking place.

Police in riot gear lined up shoulder to shoulder across intersections along the way, as helicopters circled overhead.

They were backed by soldiers in fatigues carrying machine guns and camouflage-painted armoured personnel carriers.

Many of the marchers chanted anti-American slogans and carried banners portraying President George Bush as a "toxic Texan". Others had signs attacking Israel and demanding "Osama: bomb Sandton".

Intelligence Minister Lindiwe Sisulu later called some of the protest chants "unacceptable" and possibly "unconstitutional".

Later dozens of civic groups meeting at a forum running parallel to the summit took part in a smaller march along a similar route to submit their demands to world leaders.

Addressing a rally before that march, South African President Thabo Mbeki attacked "global apartheid," which he said divided the rich and poor.

"We must liberate the poor of the world from poverty," said Mbeki, calling on the summit to set clear timetables for reaching its goals.

South African authorities said both marches went off without incident, though one marcher was taken to the hospital after suffering a heart attack.

Mbeki, with his £2000 suits has some gall talking about demanding wealth from anyone. You give up your personal fortune first, me old son.

Regards, Ivan

6 posted on 08/31/2002 1:17:56 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
One hardly knows who to root for here.

Aw screw it...Daisy Cutters all around. Get ALL the morons out of our hair.
7 posted on 08/31/2002 1:29:30 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: MadIvan
Why are communists protesting other communists? Seriously I would like to know why. Usually they are so united but as of late things have been falling apart. In 2000 the Democrats nominated a marxist openly enviromentalist candidate and then they get challenged by the openly marxist Ralph Nader. And then after September 11, as much as the Democrats hate America and were glad to see Americans hurt, very few of them were open about their feelings. In fact the only one I can think of was Barbara Lee.
8 posted on 08/31/2002 1:30:07 PM PDT by adam stevens
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To: hinckley buzzard
BUMP!
9 posted on 08/31/2002 1:31:05 PM PDT by adam stevens
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To: MadIvan
The UN Summit on Sustainable Stupidity is living up to its name. We said it last year during the UN Rant About Racism Conference. But apparently, they didn't hear, so let's say it again: WE DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK, MORONS!
10 posted on 08/31/2002 2:51:44 PM PDT by Faraday
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To: MadIvan
Since these people are able to march against the USA perhaps they too have enough energy to dig for a clean well.

The USA did not create the mess in Africa, and we cannot solve it. It is up to nation to solve their own problems.

By the way, if we gave them clean water wouldn't that encourage them to have more kids. This means more economic problems, a greater lack of resources, and a greater over population -- everything this earth summit is screaming about.

Logically, the best thing we can do for these people is to let them solve their own problems. If they can't than they perish, which in the long run means less damage to the enviornment, less pollution, and a healthier environment?

See, I have the solution to the problem of over population and a decrease in resources. NO AID to Marxist African countries. The world will be much better off than.
11 posted on 08/31/2002 3:51:41 PM PDT by GaryMontana
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To: GaryMontana
There was a panel discussion (slanted sharply left, of course) from the BBC tonight on the local NPR station - these hand-wring whiners blaming the United States on all their problems. One of the idiots (from Zambia, IIRC), was proudly stating that her little socialist utopia was refusing food aid sent from the U.S. because it is "genetically modified". You know, the same stuff 280 million of us eat every day.

These buffoons deserve to starve.
12 posted on 08/31/2002 8:19:21 PM PDT by Morgan's Raider
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To: Morgan's Raider
- these hand-wring whiners blaming the United States on all their problems.

Let's try this sentence again:
"-these hand-wringing whiners blaming the United States for all their problems".

Sorry, it's been a long day!

13 posted on 08/31/2002 8:22:50 PM PDT by Morgan's Raider
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To: MadIvan
See the people in your photo?

Probably 50 percent will illegaly enter the United States or England over the next ten years. The other 50% will be pissed they still haven't found a way to do it.

14 posted on 08/31/2002 8:29:57 PM PDT by spectre
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To: Morgan's Raider
If the people in Africa wish to starve themselves that is there choice.

I am sick of them complaing on one hand that they want food, and on the other hand saying that our food (that we eat) isn't good enough for them, than saying the USA is causing us to starve.


I say if they starve that means there will be fewer mouths to feed in the future and less damgage done to the enviornment.
15 posted on 08/31/2002 10:23:24 PM PDT by GaryMontana
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To: MadIvan; Orual; dighton; aculeus
Greenpeace has accused the US and Japan of horse-trading behind closed doors.

US delegates, it alleged, were offering to promote access to clean water in exchange for Japan supporting a removal of renewable energy targets.

Ah. We're supposed to simply accept the agenda in toto, as a sort of fait accompli. Why are we there again?

Police were out in force, with helicopters, dogs and water canon...

Even the Beeb is a bit over-reliant on spellcheckers, I see ;)

16 posted on 09/01/2002 2:38:53 AM PDT by general_re
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To: adam stevens
Why are communists protesting other communists?

They are trying to make the UN look moderate.

17 posted on 09/01/2002 11:13:57 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: adam stevens
PRESSURE FROM ABOVE... AND PRESSURE FROM BELOW
18 posted on 10/01/2002 11:07:51 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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