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Bearing arms is our birthright
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Ken Hamblin
Posted on 09/01/2002 11:18:02 AM PDT by Pat Bateman
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To: Pat Bateman; *bang_list
We have to educate our young or we'll lose.
When I found out that my sister voted for clintoon twice and she came to Texas, I had accidently mentioned that I would take her shooting. I finally ignored her request because I couldn't show someone something that they were working to take away.
After spending a couple of months telling her what clintoon had done in his efforts to destroy the country, she finally came around.
We may even go shooting the next time she's here.
To: Shooter 2.5
The amazing part of your story is that she was ALLOWED to come to Texas after having 2x voted for x42.
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posted on
09/01/2002 11:44:48 AM PDT
by
ninenot
To: ninenot
No one found out until she arrived. She almost had her U.S. to Texas passport revoked.
The horrible thing about it is that she's the good sister. I can't imagine who the bad sister voted for. Joseph Stalin?
To: dax zenos
The second amendment means nothing if people don't use it and carry arms.Also, the second amendment means nothing if the government is allowed selective application, modification, interpretation, control or to be decreed a privilege instead of a right.
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posted on
09/01/2002 12:12:15 PM PDT
by
varon
To: Pat Bateman
Where can we get "What Every Kid Should Know About the Second Amendment?"
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posted on
09/01/2002 12:22:21 PM PDT
by
WFTR
To: WFTR
To: Shooter 2.5
I would have advised you to take the opposite approach with your sister.
For most of my life, I nominally supported the Second Amendment, but I probably would have supported restrictions designed to "weed out" people who were "too stupid" or "too unstable" to own firearms, particularly handguns. My few attempts at shooting had left me so frustrated that I while I liked handguns in concept, I disliked them in practice. Putting a few restrictions on them wouldn't have seemed so bad to me.
In 1992, the L.A. riots made me realize that if things went bad, maybe no one could protect me but myself. Unfortunately, I'm not quick enough or co-ordinated enough to be much of a fighter. Furthermore, no one can fight against a group of others without a very effective weapon. I saw an ad for a home safety and handgun course offered through the local adult education. The course was taught at a local police department and consisted of half a day of classroom instruction and a few hours of shooting. The officers who taught the course were good instructors, and I left the course believing that I could learn to shoot reasonably well.
That confidence changed everything for me. Afterwards, I realized that I had a stake in protecting the Second Amendment. In truth, I rarely get to shoot these days, but I spend a great deal of time supporting candidates who support the gun rights.
I don't know whether it would have made a difference for your sister, but I think many people would care more about gun rights if they had a better understanding of guns and weren't either intimidated or frustrated by them.
WFTR
Bill
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posted on
09/01/2002 12:34:41 PM PDT
by
WFTR
To: varon
Which the states have been doing for years. Where I live in order to have a permit to carry you either have to be a city official or carry large sums of money.
People get around it with the money thing , appearantly having $500.00 or more on your person means you have the privilage of protecting yourself.
Me , I just carry. Not all the time , but when I travel with my family , my 45 comes along.
When I take my dog to the park ( which have become havens for perverts ) I take my pistol.
There's lots of things going on with licenses and us being seen as corporations in corporate courts or peasants in admirality courts. Neither one offers us the protections garaunteed under our Constitution. Only a Common Law court offers us the protections garaunteed by our Constitution.
Going to court is like going for a loan , no one is going to offer you the best deal for you , unless you know how to ask for it.
This goes pretty deep and most people don't believe it anyway , so I'll stop.
I believe in human rights regardless of color , religion , economic status , etc., etc.
FREEDOM is a choice , and I choose to remain Free right up till the point they shoot me , then I will really be FREE..............
GET AMERICA OUT OF THE UN AND THE UN OUT OF AMERICA
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posted on
09/01/2002 2:09:43 PM PDT
by
Eustace
To: Pat Bateman
Well, actually, our right to bear arms, is endowed by our Creator. I have no idea what atheists think? or why they think they should be able to own guns.
To: Shooter 2.5
I don't think he's been nominated lately for office in the USA. However, he has several disciples: Kennedy, Schumer, Toricelli, Gray Davis, et al.
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posted on
09/01/2002 4:06:33 PM PDT
by
ninenot
To: waterstraat
Technically, it is the right to self-defense (right to life) that the Creator gave us. Now that does not necessarily mean guns: if one is built well and well-trained, fists may be sufficient. Knives, too.
Curiously, the Creator also allows us to sacrifice our lives for something greater--note that there are martyrs who died for the Faith. None of them, to my recollection, were declared martyrs if they died while killing a bunch of others, as is the apparent Muslim definition.
At the same time, while the Creator gave us the 'option' of self-defense, he did NOT give us an 'option' to defend our families. That is simply a MUST-DO. The best reason for arms is our families; next is ourselves.
Atheists can simply not believe they are going to die, I suppose....
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posted on
09/01/2002 4:12:08 PM PDT
by
ninenot
To: Pat Bateman
Excellent post. My kids learned to shoot at 8 yrs old, handguns at 15, the eldest are now in their 20's, female and armed. Woe to the a$$hole who tries to take any advantage of these two. My 10 yr old is a crack shot with an air rifle and 22. This year she learns the 1911.
It is a birthright that if, not passed along, or revisted frequently, will become tainted and tattered. It is the true basis for freedom.
To: WFTR
Thank you for the advice. I'll tell her your experiences.
My sister lives in a Chicago suburb and I had to show her all the stuff that clintoon had done over the years that the dem papers never told anyone. At least she never read it.
She's not intimidated by a whole lot. She's licensed for SCUBA and drives her motorcycle all over. She can tear down a transmission and rebuilt the interior of her house when the inner walls rotted. I gave her a ultralight aircraft lesson and she wants to skydive before she's sixty.
I can teach her because I taught Boy Scouts of two troops and handicapped kids who were blind and wheelchair bound.
To: Shooter 2.5
Bump for later find
Regards
alfa6 ;>}
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posted on
09/01/2002 7:33:42 PM PDT
by
alfa6
To: varon
Also, the second amendment means nothing if the government is allowed selective application, modification, interpretation, control or to be decreed a privilege instead of a right also, without the second, no other amendment is safe... that is why it is number two...
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posted on
09/01/2002 8:30:42 PM PDT
by
teeman8r
To: teeman8r
also, without the second, no other amendment is safe... that is why it is number two... The order is immaterial. The text is all that matters (or should matter, anyway).
I wholeheartedly agree that no other amendment is safe without the 2nd. Hell, even with the 2nd they've pass "campaign finance reform" (a.k.a. political censorship, bye-bye 1st), we have no knock warrants (buh, bye 4th) and we have seizure laws galore (buh-bye 5th). Can you imagine what would happen if 80 million people weren't armed with 250-300 million guns?
To: Ancesthntr
Correction to previous post:
...they've passED...
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