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Scorched Earth Policy - Environmentalists would still rather see forests burn for the trees
WSJ ^ | August 27, 2002 | THOMAS J. BRAY

Posted on 09/01/2002 1:57:57 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

Edited on 04/23/2004 12:04:46 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

President Bush gave the liberal hive a good solid whack last week when he traveled to Oregon to propose relaxation of logging restrictions in the national forests. The usual busy bees in the green community are buzzing about the decision, but so far the reaction has been less than frenzied.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona; US: Colorado; US: Nevada; US: New Mexico; US: Oregon; US: South Dakota; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: environmentalism; forestservice; wildfires

1 posted on 09/01/2002 1:57:57 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I believe that, until the 1970's the Forestry Service allowed culling of underbrush, overmature trees and dead timber. It's the envirofascists who put a stop to most of that with the result that the intensity of forest fires have increased to the point where ecosystems have much more trouble reestablishing themselves.
2 posted on 09/01/2002 3:51:33 PM PDT by Post Toasties
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To: Post Toasties
I seem to remember that during the Bush I administration, the evirowackos blamed Bush's Interior Secretary James Watt for allowing the forests to burn. Go figure.
3 posted on 09/01/2002 5:53:39 PM PDT by virgil
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To: virgil; Carry_Okie
"the evirowackos blamed Bush's Interior Secretary James Watt for allowing the forests to burn."

Bzzzzzzt! El Wrongo!!! Nice try, and you point is not missed, but Watt worked under Ronauldus Magnus, during his first term, not the "Kindler gentler" George Herbie Walker lip reading type Bush!

4 posted on 09/01/2002 6:25:09 PM PDT by SierraWasp
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To: SierraWasp
I stand corrected. I thought it happened later than Reagan.
5 posted on 09/01/2002 6:44:10 PM PDT by virgil
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To: SierraWasp
IMHO, Mr. O'Toole's assessment about the USFS and how long Bush's programme will take to complete the job it can't do s fairly accurate. However, he doen't provide many better answers.

Mr. Bush's program is a joke.

Mr. Bray doesn't know what he is talking about either.
6 posted on 09/01/2002 7:00:56 PM PDT by Carry_Okie
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Randal O'Toole of the libertarian Thoreau Institute notes that the goal of reducing fire hazards on 2.5 million acres of National Forest a year means that "it will take more than 80 years to treat all areas"--and cost more than $100 billion. Mr. O'Toole questions whether fires these days are any worse than they used to be, or just more noticeable because of population encroachment on wilderness areas. He also suspects a plot by the Forest Service to fatten its budget.

Just over a billion a year (probably a worst case figure) doesn't sound like too much to prevent and minimize the destructiveness forest fires.

7 posted on 09/01/2002 7:12:04 PM PDT by Post Toasties
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To: Post Toasties
destructiveness of forest fires.
8 posted on 09/01/2002 7:14:02 PM PDT by Post Toasties
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The title says it all --- it really does.
9 posted on 09/01/2002 10:15:58 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Cindy
It sure does! And Bush's plan is an excellent one!
10 posted on 09/02/2002 2:23:33 AM PDT by WaterDragon
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Joe...

A great post Tailgunner- the article raises many intriguing issues.

I had some trouble following the author's reasoning about which political group or whose policies are responsible for the condition of the western forests.

Wouldn't the answer to such speculation lie in the author's statement:

“…since 1872, the National Forest Service has pursued a policy of squelching all forest fires.”

Granted, the policy had seemed a good idea during the course of 150 years, for many reasons. (remember Smokey the Bear, a campaign launched in the early 60s, because humans were causing too many forest fires.)

At various periods, the Feds sold tracts of timber to the lumber companies, and people began building their homes in the forests. These groups, too, as well as others, I am sure, had very good reason to pressure the National Forest Service to pursue and enforce its no-fire policy.

Yet, and I think the National Forest Service has come to realize so, squelching ALL fires was a bad idea. ( For reference: http://www.nps.gov/yel/nature/fire/index.htm
)

Anyone who grows wild blueberries in Maine will tell you how critical is the practice of controlled burning to ensure a healthy wild-blueberry ecosystem, one that will generate healthy crops today and for years to come.

For thousands of years, the wild blueberry grew and adapted to the presence of nature’s fires, and now today depends on fire to germinate and grow.

The western forest evolved and adapted to nature’s fires, too. Many of its trees and wild plants need fire to germinate their seeds, and to build the kind of soil in which the new seedlings can grow.

Had we not disrupted natural burning for so long, forest fires would be relatively small and self-limiting, so mature strands of trees would be present as well as other areas at successive stages in a forests growth. This process is the reason for the existence of forests as we know them.


But we did interfere, and we’ve created a monstrous timber box, and in the same way that the whole of Northern Maine’s wild blueberry region would burn in its entirety at the drop of a match, under dry conditions, had Mainers squelched all fires in that region for 150 years, the Western forests have succumbed.

Surely, no one meant for the whole damn thing to someday go up in flames at once.

To haul into jail the people who dropped the match, or to suggest that this group or that is responsible, and how do they like it now, seems to me, so unreasonable.

And surely, it is a damn shame that all that mature timber had not been harvested, rather than burnt to cinders, but implying that anyone who did not advocate for logging or who was opposed to logging is somehow responsible for the conflagration is just wrong.

(I mean no disrespect to President Bush, and I have no opinion on the logging issue, because I don't know what kind of activity might preserve the remaining forests, i.e. controlled burning or logging).

Risa





11 posted on 09/02/2002 7:18:21 PM PDT by Risa
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