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To: DaGman
those who have (or should have) no ulterior motive in opposing war with Iraq are saying and asking the same things [...] Those include Scocroft, Kissinger, Schwartzkopf, et al.

No, they don't. Kissinger was completely misrepresented by the New York Times. And that "et al" which you blithely throw out there doesn't really include anyone, now, does it? (I just love it when people try to make a tiny list seem longer by adding "et al" to the end of it. How about "etc" and three dots? You could try that too, you know, just for variety...)

Nice try, though.

Every day the list grows longer

No, it doesn't. Did it get longer yesterday? How so? Who was added to the list? Lemme know.

Rumor has it even Bush I is included in this esteemed group.

Oh wow..."rumor has it"... that's really something to go on. Ok then I agree, war w/Iraq is a bad idea.

Until I hear Scocroft, Kissinger, Schwartzkopf et al

You mean ScoWcroft? (There's a "W" in there.) Funny, if you respect his opinion so much one would think you would know his name.

I would also like to know where exactly you get the idea that Schwartzkopf is against the war. Source?

As for "et al"... it's not a magic term that makes all lists longer. Sorry.

17 posted on 09/05/2002 9:00:53 AM PDT by Dr. Frank fan
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To: Dr. Frank
For some reason I think you gave what you think is a serious rebuttal to my post. Please tell me that's not true.

Why do you think I hold Brent Scowcroft in such high regard? I point him out (as I really hope you realize) as representative of the Bush I administration and as one who's opinion is respected by conservatives who have a clue. He's also considered to be speaking for HW Bush. So far I haven't heard the old man saying anything like, "he's not speaking for me" or "We need to go kick Saddam's butt and the UN be damned."

BTW, read the Kissinger article in the NY Times. He was not misrepresented. The article is consistent with other interviews Dr. K has recently given. (Don't ask for sources on other interviews. Do your own research as I have.) Why do people who, when confronted with something in writing they don't want to see, throw out that they were "misrepresented." Is your purpose to debate or obfuscate?

And, maybe for your simpleness I need to be somewhat more specific and stay away from statements like "every day the list grows longer". People like you tend to take that literally. If my generality caused you some brain pain, I apologize. Again, more of what you don't want to hear so you attack the statement. The irrefutable fact is that there is a continually growing list of conservatives opposed to unilateral action if any action at all in Iraq. These people have minds much larger and experienced than yours so don't try this at home.

And as for the source on Schartzkopf, I've posted it here before so go find it. Stormin' Norman is considered to be speaking for the senior brass at the Pentagon who can't speak out.

32 posted on 09/10/2002 7:10:21 PM PDT by DaGman
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