[Black Agnes]

The body politic has changed and will continue to change. It is true especially with uncontrolled immigration, in which the ethnic minorities invariably vote left, which means they vote for Democrats. Voting records show this is the case. The only minorities that are exceptions are Cuban refugees and some Asian communities.

Why is this so hard for some freepers to grasp? We don't have the demographics to stop government growth now, why are we importing MORE people who vote big government every time they get a chance? We only end up further behind and less able to even set an agenda.

[headsonpikes]

"This is the way the left works."

They're 'progressive', don't you know, like cancer.

[Black Agnes]

Interesting article ping!

[John O]

Conservatives and libertarians don't wish them ill

I agreed with everything but this. The Christian in me cries for them to repent and be made whole. The American in me cries for justice to be done and for them to rot in unmourned graves. The left has destroyed this country and attacked my way of life. They are barely recognizable as human.

(I better stop here before I go into serious rant mode)

God Save America (Please)

[Djarum]

I doubt secession would be anymore successful. The statist religious right and libertarians are in just as much opposition as socialist liberals and conservatives. We were provided with an excellent arbiter of ideological schism--the Constitution--but unfortunately it is no longer part of the popular agenda.

[Stefan Stackhouse]

But the Democrat party is not nearly the monolithic institution that this author suggests. The fault lines run very deep, and it is a very difficult thing to keep together. Indeed, it may very well be that were the Republican party to dissolve, a split in the Democrat party would become inevitable. Out of one of the successor parties might just come something that could be worked with.

[Just another Joe]

Very thought provoking article.
It WOULD be nice if all the constitutional conservatives, and even the small 'l' libertarians could move to one state and then secceed but I won't hold my breath until it happens.

[x]

Alarmist nonsense. The country is not more divided now than it was in the past. Contrast the situation today with the "Culture Wars" of the 80s and 90s: how much more restrained and pacific the mood on those fronts is today than in those days. Of course activists left and right make proclaimations. They always do. And of course there are regional differences. But people do a fine job of working together. Sometimes, it looks like everything is going to fall apart, but this is a common experience. What matters isn't the ideologues or bureaucrats, but the wider public.

Secession is just walking away, not a solution or resolution. These articles are a little like someone who only has a hammer using it for every other purpose, as a wrench, as a screwdriver, etc. The writer has secession on his or her mind and doesn't bother to consider other possibilities. It's a sign of a weak mind to say "separate, separate," whenever controversies arise.

There is no instance of a people inhabiting even a small island, if remote from foreign danger, and sometimes in spite of that pressure, who are not divided into alien, rival, hostile tribes. The happy Union of these States is a wonder; their Constn. a miracle; their example the hope of Liberty throughout the world. Woe to the ambition that would meditate the destruction of either!

--James Madison

"The advice nearest to my heart and deepest in my convictions is that the Union of the States be cherished and perpetuated. Let the open enemies to it be regarded as a Pandora with her box opened; and the disguised one, as the serpent creeping with his deadly wiles into Paradise."

-James Madison

I regret that I am now to die in the belief, that the useless sacrifice of themselves by the generation of 1776, to acquire self-government and happiness to their country, is to be thrown away by the unwise and unworthy passions of their sons, and that my only consolation is to be, that I live not to weep over it. If they would but dispassionately weigh the blessings they will throw away, against an abstract principle more likely to be effected by union than by scission, they would pause before they would perpetrate this act of suicide on themselves, and of treason against the hopes of the world.

-- Thomas Jefferson

[motor_racer]

I believe the time is approaching for Atlas to Shrug