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To: shrinkermd
Malanga, like all well-off people who do not have regulated apartments, trots out the favorite myths once again: it's those wealthy cheaters who are wrecking life for all of us.

In truth, wealthy tenants in rent-regulated apartments are a tiny minority, as are cheaters. The vast majority are honest hardworking people whose lives would be thrown into chaos were they to be forced to move from neighborhoods and buildings where they have lived for decades, and yank their kids into a different school.

At least Malanga mentions all the right reasons that more housing is not built. But it has nothing at all to do with rent regulation, since new buildings are not regulated.

Moreover, the simple rules of supply and demand do not work in NYC, where there is a constant stream of newcomers from out of town eager to bring all the rents up to where market rents are now, should rent regulations cease. The idea of any rents coming down, to NY'ers who've been around for a while, is preposterous.

All envy sucks. Envy of the poor by the rich sucks the chrome off a ten-ton diesel.

5 posted on 09/05/2002 4:58:52 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: firebrand
You said it. I have the New Yorker magazine from a couple of months ago that talks about rent control envy. Of yuppie tenants (non rent controlled) in buildings with a few elderly rent controlled occupants and how *nasty* they treat these rent controlled occupants. I'll have to dig it up and maybe (if I can type that much) post it. Any idea if we're forbidden from posting New Yorker articles? I have a whole bunch of goodies! :)
6 posted on 09/05/2002 5:01:23 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: firebrand
Malanga, like all well-off people who do not have regulated apartments, trots out the favorite myths once again: it's those wealthy cheaters who are wrecking life for all of us.

He didn't go nearly that far. He did detail how that the wealthy in rent-controlled apts get a government subsidy, which strikes many as especially unfair.

In truth, wealthy tenants in rent-regulated apartments are a tiny minority, as are cheaters. The vast majority are honest hardworking people whose lives would be thrown into chaos were they to be forced to move from neighborhoods and buildings where they have lived for decades, and yank their kids into a different school.

Many with a government subsidy get used to it and consider it natural. And it makes them quiet when others get their pork.

At least Malanga mentions all the right reasons that more housing is not built. But it has nothing at all to do with rent regulation, since new buildings are not regulated.

I think I see your point. But I also see the author's point that "rent control for the rich snuffs out potential new construction, because wealthy tenants, who’d have the money to buy or lease newly built housing, instead stay put in their deeply discounted apartments." It seems to me that the increased demand coming from the newly unsubsidized tenants would lead to a proportionate increase in new housing.

Moreover, the simple rules of supply and demand do not work in NYC, where there is a constant stream of newcomers from out of town eager to bring all the rents up to where market rents are now, should rent regulations cease. The idea of any rents coming down, to NY'ers who've been around for a while, is preposterous.

Given a constant demand for housing in NYC, a smaller number of unregulated units should get a higher rent per unit. More units should get a lower rent per unit.

All envy sucks. Envy of the poor by the rich sucks the chrome off a ten-ton diesel.

Not envy to protest robbing x to benefit y.

9 posted on 09/05/2002 5:42:59 PM PDT by secretagent
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To: firebrand
"Moreover, the simple rules of supply and demand do not work in NYC,"

The rules of supply and demand work everywhere, at all times.

Anyone who says differently is abysmally ignorant of the most basic rules of economics.

L

12 posted on 09/05/2002 6:29:42 PM PDT by Lurker
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To: firebrand
I wonder if it is moral or right to take from the land lord by government law what is rightfully the landlord's income or property? What gives the government the right to take a private citizen's property simply to please another person or persons? Rent control seemingly is just another form of theft albeit one that is widly popular with those that benefit.
28 posted on 09/07/2002 12:15:44 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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