Posted on 09/06/2002 10:53:18 AM PDT by gubamyster
Okay, people. It's GUT CHECK time. The time has come for the Republicans in general and the Right in particular to reevaluate how it appeals to the pool of voters.
Both younger blacks and Jews are far and away more receptive to the conservative message than their parents and grandparents are and/or were.
What are you going to do about it? Will you take advantage, or, will you do what you've always done?
It's up to you.
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Extra warning: this is a high-volume ping list.
Why do you think 95% of blacks voted for Gore? Do you think the average black voter was stupid enough to believe those Jasper, Texas hit pieces that the Democrats aired? What do you suggest the Republicans do to get the message out that we believe in black people as individuals who have the power and intelligence to live their own lives?
I work in high tech and every black I work with is educated, skilled and conservative. There has to be a way to get the message that Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams and Clarence Thomas have out in the world of ideas to compete with Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton.
What we need is a massive black middle class, in debt up to their eyeballs, looking at sending 2.3 children to college and hoping the transmission on the Ford holds out until after Christmas. In short, a part of the American Dream.
This would be a good start. It surely would beat what has been done.
Check the link in #7 and tell me if I'm advocating "pandering."
Keep your stupid ass assumptions and stereotypes to yourself! Aight? READ FIRST. You have no idea where I'm even coming from.
No one said anything about pandering.
There have been several threads over the last few months that have gone into detail about this issue.
If you don't want to participate in any form of outreach, then let the more constructive people work on something, and keep your snide remarks to yourself.
I ain't no damned "Negro." I'm an American black man in general and a serious unhyphenated "American" in particular. Did I say ANYTHING about Rice or Powell winning the Presidency? What the hell are you talking about?
Is that your idea?
Hell no! Did I say that it was my idea? Did I intimate or infer any such thing? You have an overactive imagination.
Toady to blacks with bells and whistles because they aren't smart enough to discern their own self-interest? Is that your idea?
Thank God we're not face-to-face. Again, did I say any of that?
Sowell, Williams, Rice, Thomas and Powell all got it. Parading dancing girls or promising a warm place to defecate ain't gonna do it; it ain't gonna bring anyone over to our side because the other side is promising the world.
This is proof-positive that you didn't click the link I provided in post #7. You went nowhere near it.
And, I'm sorry, but it seems like well-intentioned racism to me. Maybe, maybe I'm wrong. And yes, dear readers, I do acknowledge that nothing is forever. There you go, my friend, is that enough?
Hell no it ain't enough! You aren't even arguing fairly, using your bigoted AND stereotypical rants, and you also refused to address what I said in #7. You have your mind already made up.
Folks, it is THIS BIGOTED DROPPINGS OF AN UPSET STOMACH BOVINE that must be addressed. He does no one on the Right any favors at all.
Normally I would feel sorry for someone like you. But I don't. Naaa... Wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.
No one has said word one about changing our message. What we have said - repeatedly - is that we change where and how we deliver that message in order to reach blacks and and other minority audiences.
When you hit the ground, you're already in an uphil battle; the left in general, and the black left in particular is delivering "our message" now. The catch is that they are delivering their version of our message, which is why we, at this point, are persona non grata in the black community. This is why we are percieved as "evil" by most blacks.
All we have said is that the truth has to be presented to the people in question. If this does not happen, then the Jesse Jackson's and Al Sharpton's of the world will "deliver" our message for us. Do you want that happening? I certainly don't.
I do not see that as pandering.
I mean, neither you nor I said ANYTHING about pandering to anyone. But that was the automatic assumption that was taken.
What Nelly say? It's gettin' hot in here!
Oh, please.
Sowell, Williams, Rice, Thomas and Powell got the message after it was introduced to them.
They didn't go out and seek it to begin with. I'm sorry, the average black person is not going to go out with the mindset of "Let me go see what the GOP has today." Especially since the mainstream media and the race warlords are playing on their worst fears and personal prejudices in order to maintain the veil of secrecy and division between the two groups.
The poverty pimps and the networks are the ones "delivering the conservative message now." Don't fool yourself into thinking they aren't. Just watch and listen to what they say about us. That we're evil. That we only want to help the rich. That those of us who happen to be black have sold our souls for "crumbs from the master's table."
If anyone's pandering, they are! I don't know about you, but I don't want them delivering my message for me. But if we don't want that, then we have to take our message to them! Notice that I said nothing of promising them rose gardens or free money. We don't need to compromise our integrity or our principles in order to tell the truth.
You want a gut check? You got one - step back. Think. If you want to include the best and brightest in America, then give them the truth. Take the truth to them. Let them decide.
Like I said, it's GUT CHECK time. If conservatives who claim they're "principled" truly are, then they most certainly wouldn't have any fear of taking the conservative message directly to black voters. Right?
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