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Fear and anger inside Iraq
msnbc.com ^ | 9/8/02 | Ron Allen

Posted on 09/08/2002 6:19:13 AM PDT by scab4faa

BAGHDAD, Iraq, Sept. 6 — As the only American network reporter currently on the ground in Baghdad, NBC’s Ron Allen spoke with MSNBC.com about the current mood in the country and what it’s like to operate there as the drums of war grow louder in the United States.

MSNBC.com: Describe the scene in Iraq right now. How has the growing drumbeat of war affected the average person there?

NBC’s Ron Allen: I know people here are very concerned and very worried about the growing threat of war. They’re even more concerned because they’re hearing that the United States is determined to change the regime in Baghdad, and that could mean that if there is war and fighting, it could happen in major cities like the capital and other places around the country, bringing it very close to home. In the past, most of the fighting has been outside of the city, and during the Gulf War, it was close to the Kuwaiti border. So, there’s a lot of concern.

I know the government here is very, very angry, very concerned, feeling again that they’re not getting a fair hearing in the court of public opinion, that they’re being demonized. I just heard from the director of the media center here that the government feels very strongly that Iraq has fulfilled all of its commitments under the U.N. Security Council resolutions and that the United States has no right to try to change the government here — a government that, according to Iraqi officials at least, is much loved and very respected.

MSNBC.com: You’re just one of a few reporters on the ground in Iraq right now. Tell us a little about what it’s like to report from there, especially as an American under the current circumstances.

Allen: Generally speaking, there’s a professional arrangement between the journalists — even us American ones — and the Iraqi government. They tell us what they feel, and we try to portray their point of view. We try not to take sides; we try to be objective. You try to be fair, and you try to tell people what they’re trying to say.

Whenever we go out on a shoot, whenever we attempt to interview people, whenever we make a request to do anything, the request has to be approved by a ministry official. We are escorted everywhere around town. Over the years, our movements have been more or less restricted depending on what the government assumes our intentions are and what our agenda might be. So far on this trip, we’ve only been here for a day, so it’s hard to say what we’ll be able to accomplish this time.

MSNBC.com: What do you hear from people on the street? Are they angry at the American threats?

Allen: There’s a lot of anger in this country about America. It’s been that way for years. The Iraqis blame America for a lot of the problems here. They blame America for 12 years of sanctions that have impoverished vast numbers of people.

There’s no love lost between these two nations. Even younger Iraqis — we’ve visited universities here over the years, and I was at one just a few months ago — there’s a feeling that the United States is a superpower that is arrogant, that lies, that does not like Arab people and pursues politics that are not in the interests of the world. And I think those feelings are going to be even more intense as the American rhetoric increases.

MSNBC.com: Is there any sense there that people want Saddam to go?

Allen: No is the short answer. It’s very hard to get people here to say anything negative about the government, to say anything negative about their leader. The comments you always hear from people — whether you stop them in the street or in the market or in their homes — is that they are always very positive and respectful of the Iraqi leader.

The view is very different outside the country, of course — in London and other places where there is an opposition movement. But here, inside the country, there’s never a disparaging word heard.


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1 posted on 09/08/2002 6:19:13 AM PDT by scab4faa
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Allen: There?s a lot of anger in this country about America. It?s been that way for years. The Iraqis blame America for a lot of the problems here. They blame America for 12 years of sanctions that have impoverished vast numbers of people.

The Iraqi people tell him what they have to say to not be killed by Hussein. My feeling is they actually hate Saddam and can't wait for him to be gone.

2 posted on 09/08/2002 6:26:53 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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To: scab4faa
Allen: No is the short answer. It’s very hard to get people here to say anything negative about the government, to say anything negative about their leader. The comments you always hear from people — whether you stop them in the street or in the market or in their homes — is that they are always very positive and respectful of the Iraqi leader. The view is very different outside the country, of course — in London and other places where there is an opposition movement. But here, inside the country, there’s never a disparaging word heard.

Well, what do you expect? The people there only hear what Saddam lets them hear. They also know that the government is screening every single journalist's reports - why risk your life telling how you really feel?

3 posted on 09/08/2002 6:30:58 AM PDT by TheBattman
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To: scab4faa; Orual; aculeus; general_re; Tennessee_Bob
It’s very hard to get people here to say anything negative about the government, to say anything negative about their leader. The comments you always hear from people — whether you stop them in the street or in the market or in their homes — is that they are always very positive and respectful of the Iraqi leader.

No kidding!

Iraqi man's tongue amputated for berating Saddam

4 posted on 09/08/2002 6:33:00 AM PDT by dighton
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To: scab4faa
Another MSNBC waste of time.....no wonder their ratings are in the toilet.
5 posted on 09/08/2002 6:37:24 AM PDT by Reo
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To: Reo
Look no further than the explanation of their lack of freedom of access to know we are dealing with the dark side of humanity. When agents of this repressive regime move their lips nothing truthful comes out.
6 posted on 09/08/2002 6:43:06 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: scab4faa
They tell us what they feel, and we try to portray their point of view. We try not to take sides; we try to be objective.

This clown should have been a reporter in Berlin or Tokyo at the start of WWII. After all, Hitler's Nazis and Tojo's imperialist military had their points of view which are just as valid as ours.</sarcasm>

7 posted on 09/08/2002 6:50:33 AM PDT by AF68
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To: scab4faa
I just heard from the director of the media center here that the government feels very strongly that Iraq has fulfilled all of its commitments under the U.N. Security Council resolutions

Amazing how the lies flow so freely from these guys.

8 posted on 09/08/2002 6:52:35 AM PDT by The Electrician
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To: scab4faa
"they’re being demonized"

like... "the Great Satan"?????

9 posted on 09/08/2002 6:57:19 AM PDT by LurkedLongEnough
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To: scab4faa
Fear and anger inside Iraq

Good. Eventually, they might figure out that Saddam is the real source of all of their pain and they can do their dirty work for us. After all, the Iraqi people (outside of the leadership) stand to gain the most from his ouster.

10 posted on 09/08/2002 7:02:08 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: scab4faa
My dear Lord.

The media are more concerned with indocrinating the West than reporting of the thugs in that regime.

Hey PMSnbc.com, why don't you tell us the story about how Saddam son tortured (and then injected with rat poison) an ordinary Iraqi man because he stopped him from raping his cousin? Even Newsweek printed that!

11 posted on 09/08/2002 7:04:27 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: scab4faa
I saw a picture of Blair with Bush. Blair didn't have that silly grin he sometimes has. He looked very grim. Something is really up. Decisions have been made.
12 posted on 09/08/2002 7:07:40 AM PDT by Dialup Llama
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To: scab4faa
There’s no love lost between these two nations. Even younger Iraqis — we’ve visited universities here over the years, and I was at one just a few months ago — there’s a feeling that the United States is a superpower that is arrogant, that lies, that does not like Arab people and pursues politics that are not in the interests of the world. And I think those feelings are going to be even more intense as the American rhetoric increases.

Pursues politics that are not in the interest of the world? ROTFLMAO!!!! Why didn't Allen ask some of these brilliant university students for examples of Iraq pursuing politics in the interest of the world? The only one that I can thing of is Iraq's pursuit of its own destruction.

13 posted on 09/08/2002 7:13:40 AM PDT by hflynn
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To: scab4faa
"We are escorted everywhere around town."

"The comments you always hear from people — whether you stop them in the street or in the market or in their homes — is that they are always very positive and respectful of the Iraqi leader."

Those two sentences taken together are all the proof you need that the mainstream media are idiots.

15 posted on 09/08/2002 7:20:35 AM PDT by Fabozz
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To: scab4faa
"I know the government here is very, very angry, very concerned, feeling again that they’re not getting a fair hearing in the court of public opinion, that they’re being demonized."

When the book: "The Rise and Fall of the Free World" is written, it will become clear that the "fall" began with 24/7 cable "news".

16 posted on 09/08/2002 7:28:35 AM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: rosebud
Allen is a useful idiot, and from this interview doesn't seem to know it.
17 posted on 09/08/2002 7:29:32 AM PDT by gaspar
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To: scab4faa
They tell us what they feel, and we try to portray their point of view. We try not to take sides; we try to be objective.

I guess it all depends upon what the meaning of "objective" is...

18 posted on 09/08/2002 7:29:40 AM PDT by Eala
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To: scab4faa
Drivel like this is the reason I stopped watching news, almost any news, on network or cable TV. The fact that an interview such as this would ever even happen, THEN be made public is a tribute to the non-news ability of reporters and editors.

I stopped watching this idiocy about two years ago, and that frees up a good deal of time for more productive pursuits.

19 posted on 09/08/2002 7:34:26 AM PDT by stevem
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To: scab4faa
There's a feeling that the United States is a super power that is arrogant, that lies, that does not like Arab people

Well...one out of three ain't bad...
20 posted on 09/08/2002 7:39:39 AM PDT by dagoofyfoot
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