Posted on 09/08/2002 12:06:18 PM PDT by OKCSubmariner
Excerpted:
NEWSWEEK has learned that one of the bureau’s informants had a close relationship with two of the hijackers
THE CONNECTION, JUST discovered by congressional investigators, has stunned some top counterterrorism officials and raised new concerns about the information-sharing among U.S. law-enforcement and intelligence agencies.
The two hijackers, Khalid Almihdhar and Nawaf Alhazmi, were hardly unknown to the intelligence community. The CIA was first alerted to them in January 2000, when the two Saudi nationals showed up at a Qaeda “summit” in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
FBI officials have argued internally for months that if the CIA had more quickly passed along everything it knew about the two men, the bureau could have hunted them down more aggressively.
But both agencies can share in the blame. Upon leaving Malaysia, Almihdhar and Alhazmi went to San Diego, where they took flight-school lessons. In September 2000, the two moved into the home of a Muslim man who had befriended them at the local Islamic Center. The landlord regularly prayed with them and even helped one open a bank account. He was also, sources tell NEWSWEEK, a “tested” undercover “asset” who had been working closely with the FBI office in San Diego on terrorism cases related to Hamas.
But the belated discovery has unsettled some members of the joint House and Senate intelligence committees investigating the 9-11 attacks. The panel is tentatively due to begin public hearings as early as Sept. 18, racing to its end-of-the-year deadline. But some members are now worried that they won’t get to the bottom of what really happened by then. Support for legislation creating a special blue-ribbon investigative panel, similar to probes conducted after Pearl Harbor and the Kennedy assassination, is increasing. Only then, some members say, will the public learn whether more 9-11 secrets are buried in the government’s files.
Connivance is the knowledge of and the consent to (active or passive) wrongdoing when it is known and the repsonsibility to oppose the wrongdoing.
Please see my article "DOJ and FBI COnnivance Permaetes. Interconnects Terror Attacks" posted 8/15/02 on FreeRepublic.com that reveals active FBI connivance in the 9/11, 1993 WTC and OKC Bombing attacks. In that article it is also revealed how another FBI informant, Aukae Collins, for 9/11 hijacker Hanny Hanjour, was the basis of an FBI memo and later a CIA memo from FBI agent Ken Williams in Phoenix. The results of the memo warning of AlQaeda and BIn Laden airliner attacks inside the US reached President Bush on Aug 6, 2002 in a briefing by Condoleeza Rice.
Promoting a One World Socialist Government or Supporting the Marxist point of view causes our fellow humans to do some very bad things.
Thanks to any and all loyal American Muslims who will stand with their nation in the war on terrorism.
Actually, you're right, they did. Almost everyone of McVeigh's associates had some kind of informant relationship with the Feds except McVeigh, and there are some odd relationships that suggest that he too may have had informant status of some kind or other.
The great difficulty in trying him was not finding witness who had seen him preparing the blast, there were well over a hundred of those. It was finding witnesses who saw him not accompanied by those other associates.
From all of the info I've seen on the WTC, the threats were general and not specific. If only two of the factors were known, it still could not have been prevented.
I'd like to know if all three factors were known in advance.
What's wierd is that this sounds credible, but I have also read Isikoff articles that sound like he was drugged and beaten and then told what to write. It sure is probable that a lot of the motive for covering up the OKC bombing came from the same kind of incompetence FBI and CIA have probably been had by some of these "informants." I'd even give you odds that Al Quaida has infiltrated both the CIA and FBI - after all, we trained OBL well.
Neither agency has protected nor served us well. And now caught in their treachery each agency seeks desperately to pass the blame to the other especially when it comes to 911. Heads should have been rolling after Waco and Ruby Ridge. Nope! They got away with those atrocities and figured what the hell, we can now move on to higher stakes like OKC, WTC, and now 911. Sleep on and sweet dreams America. If these disclosures tieing the agencies we pay to protect and serve us to 911 doesn't awaken all, then God help us all. Negligence, incompetence, or complicity? You decide. Either way, we have some serious problems to resolve. And hey, "homeland (in)security" ain't the answer since all this will do is make it even more confusing as to who is negligent, incompetent, or complicit.
Problem is though, I fear even our congress may be complicit as evidenced in their retarded (or scripted) investigation of Waco. Well at least they did side with Randy Weaver and gave him a few million bucks for his loss of wife and son at Ruby Ridge. But not til they had no choice based on the evidence presented before them and the world.
I have no clue the activities of the CIA in these matters of 911. But I would assume they should be on top of these kinds of matters. If not, why not? Are they the "intelligence" agency or not?
Now the FBI is another matter since I am very familiar with the activities of the FBI especially at Waco and their subsequent cover up of their atrocities committed there.
Bottomline, this organization needs re-organizing if not disbanded post haste.
Sure, I have an ax to grind here. I want the men who killed those innocent infants and children at Waco to be brought to justice. Had they been already, then perhaps we could have prevented 911. How so? You go figure for yourself based on what you have learned just being here. Me? I figure had we brought all of them to justice making them all answer for Waco, we would have already in place a new and uncorrupted FBI to be on top of matters protecting our valued interests. But we slept then and we continue to sleep. So again, sweet dreams America.
Whoa there. What's the citation on that one? I heard the briefing was a general warning about Al-Queda doing something, somewhere. You've made it alot more specific.
Assuming that passenger planes were the only option, you could be correct.
That would probably work, but how to rid the country of all the 'potential' terrorists that are already here and have been here for years? Bush's first impulse to call for a 'crusade' against terror must have sent a shock wave over a segment of the population. Certainly the connotation was not lost on the crazies, and may serve as an accidental deterrent to domestic terror. Time will tell.
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