Exploring the Roots of Terrorism.....The Templars and the Assassins. The Militia of Heaven

aubrey ^ | From Summer 2002 | James Wasserman

[dennisw]

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[FryingPan101]

Good read. Thanks for the post.

[SpinyNorman]

Where is a good Templar when you need one (or a thousand)?

[thinktwice]

The Islamic religous nuts are making all religious nuts look bad. Why?

The Church of England -- in opposition to Tony Blair -- has joined the British public outcry against G.W. Bush's proposals to take out Saddam.

Even Michael Kinsley provides a hint as to the religious-ethic problem inherent in today's world. Kinsley, in his 9 Sept 2002 Time Magazine essay "How to live a rational life" esaay, he writes: ".... it's hard to be rational about the irrational. Who can guess what Osama bin Laden might want to try next? How can you discourage a suicide bomber who is looking forward to being dead ater killing you?"

Religious terrorists are today making all religious nuts look bad because our world needs a rational ethics, but all religions -- being irrational -- must join toether to fight that thought with vigor.

[gcruse]

Ideally, Islamic society is a theocracy. [from the article]

Well, if that's the best it can hope for,
it's not worth the West defending, is it?
I mean, liberty and all that.

[wretchard]

It is commonly thought that Westerners, or Christians at least, won't fight to the death. In my own family, at least, that isn't the case. One of my grand-uncles had his head lopped off by the Japanese Army, after he tried stopping them from raping a women, just months after being released from a concentration camp after the Bataan Death March.

An old anti-Japanese guerilla told me a story that rivalled Robert Shaw's monologue in Jaws. He led a guerilla band operating in Bulacan, some miles out of Manila. The Japanese rounded up all the military age males in the vicinity and lined them up on Calumpit bridge. The Japanese officer wanted to know who the guerilla leader was, and stopped to interrogate the man next to him in line because he was a known rank and filer. "If you tell me your officer's name, I will let you go", the Japanese officer said.

I won't go into the details, but the man refused, and the Japanese officer cut him to pieces a bit at a time, an ear here, a nose there, a finger there, hoping he would break. All that time, the man the Japanese sought was standing right next to the dying man, who never uttered a word. But it was the fact that he tried to maintain a posture of attention until his last breath that the guerilla leader best remembered.

The Assasins haven't got a chance. Just ask Todd Beamer's relatives.

[Brian Allen]

<< Where is a good Templar when you need one? [Or a thousand] >>

All around you.

Ask one.

[dennisw]

Assassination has a long and honored history in the Islamic world. Regimes and kings have been changed due to it. It's war by stealth/deception which is just the way they like it. 

Saddam Hussein gained recognition when young when he assassinated an Iraqi leader

"How is Saddam Hussein, a man who can be easily compared to Hitler or Mussilini, been the leader of Iraq? This man was one in a group of people who assassinated Abdul Karim Kassem in 1959. This is a man who put people in prison because they spoke out agaist him ( they are usually tortured in prison. Examples of the torture include branding, electric shocks, administered to the genitals and other areas, beatings, burnings with hot irons, suspension from ceiling fans. They are usually killed after being tortured.) He is a man who loves the taste of power."

[EggsAckley]

They were taught to accept the world as flat because it was pronounced by one of their mullahs as recently as the 1960s.

This just about says it all. They are basing this "religion" on mumbo-jumbo from more than a thousand years ago, weaving it together from fragments and bits and pieces of an idea that didn't REALLY survive in the first place. There is no way to take this "religion" seriously.

Good Find!

[livius]

Interesting article. Did I miss what strange sect Mr. Wasserman belonged to? Is he a Sufi, perhaps?

In any case, I think he summed up a lot of important points:Finally, the use of the terrorist groups by states seeking to avoid international consequences is an effective ruse by which they pursue agendas. Thus states like Iran, Libya, Syria and Iraq gladly employ the type of plausible deniability provided by someone like bin Laden.

Bin Laden had the brilliant realization that we (America) only fight states. Not being or allying himself with a state was probably his smartest move.

We have to remember that many wars were won by changes in strategy. The Romans on many occasions revamped their strategy to fight the barbarians on their own terms. The Continental Army fought with a strategy that left the lined-up advancing squadrons of the Brits dead upon the ground.

I think, actually, that that's what we're doing now. We'll have a conventional war at some point. But who knows when?

[dennisw]

Interesting article. Did I miss what strange sect Mr. Wasserman belonged to? Is he a Sufi, perhaps?
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I don't know what he is but he has a website.

http://www.studio31.com


http://216.239.51.100/search?q=cache:VGXlMx7OM_8C:www.studio31.com/heaven.htm+%22James+Wasserman%22++sufi&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

[thinktwice]

Japanese religious ethics aren't any better than the rest of them. They are all irrational.

Mankind needs common sense rational ethics, but religions consider themselves citadels for all things ethical.

[thinktwice]

There is no way to take this "religion" seriously.

There is no way to take any of them seriously.

[TrueBeliever9]

Thought you should read this X. Thanks for the ping dennisw

[dalebert]

thanks for the ping

[Ciexyz]

I agree, self-defense and self-interest should be the buzzwords of the day.

[Elsie]

Psalms 14:1-2
1. The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, their deeds are vile; there is no one who does good.
2. The LORD looks down from heaven on the sons of men to see if there are any who understand, any who seek God.

[Victoria Delsoul]

The goal of Muslim extremists is world domination through the establishment of a world government in which Islamic principles are the law of every land. This presents an intriguing contrast to the proposed tyranny of the secular, internationalist movement that seeks to bind the "world community" into a global government that I believe is equally pernicious. If Americans seek to remain a free people, we will refuse both sets of chains.

The tools we need to defeat the Islamists involve a return to our roots as a nation and as human beings. We are dealing with an enemy who is primitive, not one with whom we can negotiate. We cannot be polite; that is interpreted by this enemy as weakness. I believe the terrorists' greatest mistake was to assume that President Bush's policies would be a continuation of his predecessor's. We need to embrace the virtues of patriotism, militarism and decisiveness, as well as the common sense requirements of self-defense and national self-interest.

I agree.

[Valin]

In addition to gazing back to the time of the Prophet, the extremist Muslims have not advanced further than their worldview in the 12th century.


Very true as I (among many others have been saying). They really are at war with modernity