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Yediot Ahronot: Iraq, Jordan to be converted into one Hashimite Kingdom
Arabic News.com ^ | September 7, 2002

Posted on 09/08/2002 3:54:57 PM PDT by Prodigal Son

The correspondent of the Israeli Yediot Ahronot for military affairs said Friday that Israeli sides were briefed on plans prepared by the hawks of the American administration on changing the face of the Arab region, including perceptions to end the ruling regime in Iraq and bringing it back to the Hashimite Kingdom.

Meantime, the Israeli foreign minister Shimon Peres announced that there is no link between the Palestinian and Iraqi questions.

The Yediot Ahronot correspondent quoted the Israeli expert in terrorism affairs Ehud Shefernitsk who recently returned back from several meetings with Pentagon leaders saying "that talks are about a revolutionary group, with a very different attitude to the Arab world, and the risks coming from it." Shefernitsk speaks about his meeting in the Pentagon saying "It is possible to put their inclination in one phrase: they think that the Arab world is a world of backward people that only understands the language of power." He added that the main player in this American coupe are "the Vice President Dick Cheney, the defense secretary Donald Rumsfeld; the ideological explanation for the work plan is by three persons, the under defense secretary, his deputy Douglas Faith and Richard Perl." The Israeli correspondent added that Richard Perl was the one who asked the RAND Institute for research ( which has been conducting researches since scores of years for the US administration, especially the Pentagon) for a research paper under the title "What the American strategy will be in the Middle East." In the said paper, Saudi Arabia was described as an enemy that should be "dealt with."

The Rand research brings in the war against Iraq into a logic sequence in the context of the wider picture.

According to one source, the research reaches the result that the military attack against Iraq is "a tactical objective," Saudi Arabia is "the strategic objective" and Egypt is "the big prize." This means, the correspondent says, that this group inside the American administration sees that changing the regime in the three said countries is a strategic objective and converting them into liberal countries inclined to the West would limit their ability to threaten the US through its interests in the Arab states.

He recently heard from the Americans why it is good for them to start, in particular dealing the question of Iraq. According to the views of the Americans there are potentials in Iraq of qualitative human force that would contribute to economic development and democracy, while the Iraqi oil can give a solution to the West at the expense of links to the Saudi oil. Controlling Iraq will be also a clear message to the Iranians. But Iraq, as aforesaid, is just the beginning.

The correspondent wrote that the "revolutionary group in the Pentagon is formulating the view point of Rand's institute for practical plans and the aim is a change in the political map by military means." He added that there is also a plan tailored for Israel saying that "Palestine is Israel," which means that the Palestinians can achieve their national ambitions outside their home of origin., namely in a state like Jordan, recalling what Rumsfeld said recently when he described the Israeli occupation of the West Bank as an "alleged occupation."

The correspondent indicates that Jordan will play a main role, according to the plans discussed by the Pentagon, noting that these plans point the end of the story of the Iraqi Baathist regime under the leadership of Saddam Hussein and the foundation of a democratic Iraq to be an integral part of the Hashaimite Kingdom. The correspondent added it was not a mere coincident that the Americans invited that ( former Jordanian crown prince ) prince Hassan from Jordan to two meetings with the Iraqi opposition residents in London." The The correspondent added "Inviting prince Hassan to London reminds us of the Afghani experience: toppling the regime and bringing in the old and good King."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraq; jordan
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1 posted on 09/08/2002 3:54:57 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Prodigal Son
Now for the scriptural side of this plan. Babylon, according to Revelation, will become the ultimate city of sin. This is only possible if fundamentalist Islam is crushed. Thus, the Bible fortells a huge failure of Islamic fundamentalist dominance.
2 posted on 09/08/2002 4:05:51 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: Prodigal Son
I get the feeling, though, that this is buzz to unify all the Arab states against us. Fear mongering rumors to get allies for Saddam.
3 posted on 09/08/2002 4:11:47 PM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: Prodigal Son
I always thought we had something like this in mind - and if we didn't, we should.

The modern Middle East was a recent creation of the Western European Imperial powers, designed to suit their interests. No reason to preserve it.

It would make sense to create something in line with the religious - Sunni, Shia, Jewish - and ethnic - Kurds, Arabs, Iranians, Turks, Jews - realities.

4 posted on 09/08/2002 4:17:11 PM PDT by liberallarry
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To: Thinkin' Gal
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5 posted on 09/08/2002 4:19:17 PM PDT by Dallas
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To: Prodigal Son
Could this really be true?

Iraq, Jordan to be converted into one Hashishimite Kingdom?

They, too will become a "Laid-back" capitalist entity?
6 posted on 09/08/2002 4:29:07 PM PDT by Vidalia
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To: Prodigal Son
Hey, I think I got it!!!

Give a conquered Iraq to Jordan, with all its oil fields, in exchange for the absorbtion of all the Palestianians from the West Bank, Gaza and Israel proper. If the Palestianians don't like it, King Abdullah can do to them what his father did.

Another option would be to give Iraq to the Palestinians in exchange for forever abandoning all claims to land in Israel. Their choice would be eternal subjugation by Israelis in shacks and refugee camps, or, live high on the hog with trillions of dollars of oil revenues. OTOH, I really hate to reward a homicidal race.

7 posted on 09/08/2002 4:56:24 PM PDT by Edward Watson
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To: Prodigal Son; knighthawk
they think that the Arab world is a world of backward people that only understands the language of power

BY GEORGE, I THINK THEY'VE GOT IT!!

This sounds just MARVELOUS to me!

Q: Why did Sherman make his march to the sea?

A: To make Georgia howl!

Can you imagine the way this is going to make the arab world HOWL!!!!?

Godspeed and God Bless the USA!

(For your list knighthawk :) )

8 posted on 09/08/2002 6:17:56 PM PDT by America's Resolve
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To: Sabertooth
You might ping your list as well saber :)
9 posted on 09/08/2002 6:21:01 PM PDT by America's Resolve
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March; Dallas; Jeremiah Jr; 2sheep; Simcha7; babylonian; crystalk; dighton; ...
Now for the scriptural side of this plan.

Revived head wound.

Thanks for the ping, Dallas. Looks like the analysts are finally catching up to FR.

Daniel 8:23-24 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up. And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.

10 posted on 09/08/2002 6:52:43 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: Thinkin' Gal; Arthur Wildfire! March
Babylon now, today, truly is a city of sin under the tyrantical rule of the monster known as Saddam Hussein.

The Baathist Party ruling Iraq is NOT a religious or Islamic fundamentalist party at all! Saddam controls everything and everyone. If you do something he doesn't like, he can have you killed outright or just withold your food rations. He murders entire families that way.

11 posted on 09/08/2002 9:09:27 PM PDT by goody2shooz
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To: goody2shooz; Arthur Wildfire! March; Jeremiah Jr; 2sheep; dighton; Simcha7; crystalk; Dallas; ...
Jordan Times
Tuesday, September 10, 2002

Winner of oil pipeline contract to be announced in December

AMMAN (JT) — The government is expected to announce in December the winner of a bid to construct an over-300- kilometre oil pipeline to link Jordan's sole refinery in the industrial city of Zarqa with the Kingdom's eastern border with Iraq.

In mid-August the government received proposals by four companies to build the pipeline, designed to link on a later stage Jordan with its rich-oil neighbour, said an official at the Ministry of Energy and Mineral Resources, who asked not to be named.

Currently, the proposals are under evaluation, and by the end of 2002 one of the British, Italian, Russian and Omani firms who had submitted bids, will be selected to construct the pipeline, he said.

The pipeline will eliminate the need for trucking oil from Iraq to Jordan, he added.

Jordan will finance constructing the section of the pipeline which will extend over its land at an estimated cost of $130-$140 million, and Iraq will cover the remainder of the 400-450 kilometres which go from the border to the Iraqi oil pumping station in Haditha, 260 kilometres northwest of Baghdad.

With an estimated capacity to transport 350,000 barrels of crude a day, the pipeline will be implemented on a build, own, operate and transfer (BOOT) basis, he added.

Tuesday, September 10, 2002

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12 posted on 09/10/2002 8:05:51 PM PDT by Thinkin' Gal
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To: dennisw; TopQuark; Alouette; OKCSubmariner; veronica; weikel; EU=4th Reich; BrooklynGOP; ...
A late ping.

Middle East list

If people want on or off this list, please let me know.

13 posted on 09/14/2002 2:45:19 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk
Thanks for the ping, knighthawk.

How come you're still there, I thought you would be traveling in the U.S. now?
14 posted on 09/14/2002 2:50:22 PM PDT by tictoc
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Now for the scriptural side of this plan. Babylon, according to Revelation, will become the ultimate city of sin. This is only possible if fundamentalist Islam is crushed. Thus, the Bible fortells a huge failure of Islamic fundamentalist dominance.

Now that is quite a stretch. Have you taken a look at some of these Islamic countries? Just where did you get the idea that they are could not be the ultimate city of sin under Islam?

a.cricket

15 posted on 09/14/2002 2:54:00 PM PDT by another cricket
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To: Edward Watson
Forget Jordan. Give Iraq back to Turkey, since they are actually a democracy and an ally.
16 posted on 09/14/2002 2:55:47 PM PDT by StolarStorm
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To: Thinkin' Gal
Marker!
17 posted on 09/14/2002 3:39:54 PM PDT by Bigun
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To: tictoc
'Still'? I just came back. I was away when I was asked to ping the ME-list. So here it is (a little late).
18 posted on 09/14/2002 3:49:13 PM PDT by knighthawk
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To: knighthawk
Good plan King Abdullah is one of the few sane people over there.
19 posted on 09/14/2002 3:51:47 PM PDT by weikel
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Now for the scriptural side of this plan. Babylon, according to Revelation, will become the ultimate city of sin. This is only possible if fundamentalist Islam is crushed. Thus, the Bible fortells a huge failure of Islamic fundamentalist dominance.

Sure Babylon was in what is now Iraq, but the city itself has been in ruins for millenia. Are you quite certain that "Babylon" in Revelation isn't just a figure of speech for the ultimate city of sin wherever it may be? Rome when the book was written, '???' now?

Saddam sure does like that 'Babylonian chic' with himself as Nebucanezzar, though.

20 posted on 09/14/2002 4:18:20 PM PDT by Salman
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