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Law cuts washing machine water use
Sac Bee ^
| 9/9/02
| Margaret Talev
Posted on 09/09/2002 8:55:02 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
Edited on 04/12/2004 5:43:04 PM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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Residential washing machines sold in California must use significantly less water within five years under legislation signed Sunday by Gov. Gray Davis.
The requirements could make washing machines more expensive for consumers in the short run, but proponents said owners would make up initial costs over time through lower monthly water and power bills.
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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: calgov2002; davis; washingmachines
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DUMP DAVI$ & the Den of Socialists
GO SIMON
To: NormsRevenge
Costlier Appliances :-?
To: NormsRevenge
See, if you didn't wash your clothes at all, you'd begin to approach the sacred level of 'cleanliness' so adored in 3rd world countries. Electricity and flush toilets are to be spurned! The enviroweenies would be pleased!
To: NormsRevenge
Get a front-loader. They, by design, use 1/3 less water and get clothes cleaner. They're more expensive, yes, but I would NEVER go back to a top loader.
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posted on
09/09/2002 8:58:32 AM PDT
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sinkspur
To: NormsRevenge
This proves beyond a doubt that government can cure all problems, with more laws.
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posted on
09/09/2002 9:00:37 AM PDT
by
cynicom
To: sinkspur
Get a front-loader. They, by design, use 1/3 less water and get clothes cleaner. They're more expensive, yes, but I would NEVER go back to a top loader.Doing things like that voluntarily is a beautiful use of your freedom. But when do-gooders turn around and use the power of gov't to force other people to be like them it is tyrannical.
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posted on
09/09/2002 9:03:40 AM PDT
by
krb
To: NormsRevenge
Looks like a rising black market in washers, to go with the black market in toilets and showers.
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posted on
09/09/2002 9:04:25 AM PDT
by
Grammy
To: NormsRevenge
I had to go to Canada to get a normal flow toilet and shower head. Now I can stop in Oregon on the way back to pick up a normal Washing machine.
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posted on
09/09/2002 9:05:30 AM PDT
by
Drango
To: sinkspur
Likewise. I love my front loader.
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posted on
09/09/2002 9:08:07 AM PDT
by
Dimensio
To: sinkspur
Went with one of the high tech front loaders to save water. We're on a well in the NM mountains, and if it extends the life of our well ($15 a foot to drill, 400' minimum) all the better.
To: NormsRevenge
More social engineering by the dimbulb governor!
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posted on
09/09/2002 9:09:48 AM PDT
by
gc4nra
To: Drango
I WANT 3 normal toilets - I'm tired of flushing THREE times to do what is necessary......where in Canada did you go?
To: sinkspur
We've got a frontloader. It does use less water, and it also spins out a lot more water than our old toploader.
And I remember my Mom's first "automatic" washing machine (after both my sister & I, separately, got our arms caught in the wringer while washing doll clothes) was a front loader.
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posted on
09/09/2002 9:10:27 AM PDT
by
Catspaw
To: sinkspur
Bendix found out that front loaders, i've always refered to them as goldfish excercise machines, were a bad idea in the 40s.
Before they outlaw the old ones i'll buy a new one that should last me the rest of our lives.
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posted on
09/09/2002 9:12:33 AM PDT
by
dalereed
To: Black Agnes
I need to have this issue cleared up for me.
Water does not get used up. It goes to sewage treatment plants, septic mounds, evaporated into the atmosphere, or used in industrial processes which return it in any of the mentioned forms. All forms of water usage merely transition it from one stage in the cycle to another.The only actually "lost" water is the stuff astronauts take into space. Municipalities have to actually flush billions of gallons of the same water you are prohibited from using just to periodically flush the solids from the sewers. They periodically purge millions of gallons from the public water system to flush out iron and mineral deposits into the storm sewers. Can anyone possibly tell me how a toilet, washing machine, or lawn sprinkler "uses up" water?
Now if the issue is that municipalities no longer have an infrastructure to fill demand, that is a separate issue.
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posted on
09/09/2002 9:12:57 AM PDT
by
blackdog
To: NormsRevenge
What a relief!
I have stayed up many nights just fretting and worrying about this.
Woe is me.
I'll worry about no energy and the 26 billion dollar deficit in California in a coupla-three months...
To: sinkspur
Yep our energy efficiency standards being implemented. The Feds have a two staged system for washing machines.... The first is to be effective Jan. 2004 and save 4 gallons of water per load..... The second stage is set for Jan. 2007 and will save 18.1 gallons per load. This will require front loaders to achieve that reduction.
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posted on
09/09/2002 9:15:52 AM PDT
by
deport
To: NormsRevenge
I've got a better idea. Why not pass a law requiring all citizens to shower with clothes on. Kill two birds with one stone, clean clothes and clean body. Outlaw washing machines entirely. You could also outlaw dryers. Require everyone to run 2 miles to air dry clothes, that will improve cardiovascular performance and cut down on power usage. Hell, I think I'm on to something here. Quick someone nominate me for Congress or Governor at least. I think I might have a handle on these problems. < /sarcasm >
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posted on
09/09/2002 9:16:11 AM PDT
by
ladtx
To: blackdog
We're billed on how much water we use from the municipal water/sewer department, and from that, the water department bills us for sewer usage on a formula known only to them (I'm sure it's written down somewhere, deep in the recesses of the water department). Using less water--about 10%-15% in our case since we got the frontloader--means lower water/sewer bills. We also don't water our lawn--in fact, my hubby cuts it short in hopes that it turns brown & dies out--but we do bathe regularly :-))
And if he had his druthers, he'd set the temperature for around 55 degrees in the winter, or a temp just a degree above "you can see your breath inside."
He just hates paying utility bills.
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posted on
09/09/2002 9:22:37 AM PDT
by
Catspaw
To: sinkspur
Get a front-loader. They, by design, use 1/3 less water and get clothes cleaner. They're gentler on the clothes, too.
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