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OKC/Iraq connection coming up on Fox News
Fox News | Greta Van Sust... -- On the Record.

Posted on 09/09/2002 7:19:10 PM PDT by TXnMA

At the beginning of On the Record, Fox announced that the program will cover the OKC-Iraq connection! Watch and comment...

TXnMA (No Longer!!!)


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: iraq; okcbombinbg; okcbombing
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1 posted on 09/09/2002 7:19:10 PM PDT by TXnMA
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To: TXnMA; glorygirl; *OKCbombing
Heads up!!

TXnMA (No Longer!!!)
2 posted on 09/09/2002 7:20:47 PM PDT by TXnMA
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To: TXnMA
Thanks for the heads up.

IMO, this story is NOT merely conspiracy stuff.
3 posted on 09/09/2002 7:24:39 PM PDT by Darling Lili
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To: TXnMA
bumping - in hopes someone who has a tv will be able to tell what they say ...
4 posted on 09/09/2002 7:25:03 PM PDT by ThePythonicCow
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To: TXnMA
First CNN,now FNC,sounds like permision has been given to let all this info come out.Alittle at a time of course,can't give out so much at one time that the sheeple will soon forget,it will be dragged out for the next year,mark my word.
5 posted on 09/09/2002 7:25:27 PM PDT by eastforker
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To: TXnMA
(No Longer!!!)

I take it that they could not stop you from getting across the border?

6 posted on 09/09/2002 7:26:26 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: TXnMA
Imagine if it were true. Two birds with one stone.....
7 posted on 09/09/2002 7:27:43 PM PDT by hove
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To: eastforker
There was a story recently that McVey and his buddy were seen in a bar with some Iraqis.
8 posted on 09/09/2002 7:28:30 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: TXnMA
what channel is it on?
9 posted on 09/09/2002 7:31:21 PM PDT by Hanging Chad
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To: TXnMA
McVeigh said in that interview he gave that the only thing that ever bothered him was killing an Iraqi soldier in the Gulf War while he considered the OKC people collateral damage.
10 posted on 09/09/2002 7:31:41 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: wirestripper
This is nothing new.If you follow FR and OKC submariner and all his links,you would know this over a year ago.
11 posted on 09/09/2002 7:32:11 PM PDT by eastforker
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To: Hanging Chad
There was a teaser on Fox's Greta Show. Have to sit through the trash and wait for it.
12 posted on 09/09/2002 7:33:01 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: TXnMA
Yeah, and this dead bird I saw a year ago was definitely killed by Iraqi's(excuse me, possibly killed by Iraqi's).

Geez, how many BS stories are they gonna put out on this! lol

13 posted on 09/09/2002 7:35:04 PM PDT by SirAngus
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To: eastforker
I have not followed the story that closely. I saw the bar story on FR not long ago. I have always been of the opinion that there was a foreign influence in this and FLT800.
14 posted on 09/09/2002 7:35:34 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: wirestripper
Its on cannel 15.
RIGHT NOW !
15 posted on 09/09/2002 7:42:15 PM PDT by Hanging Chad
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To: TXnMA
KFOR Jayna Davis stuff. She's cute. "Dead bang" connection? What's that?
16 posted on 09/09/2002 7:42:31 PM PDT by sam_paine
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To: eastforker
This is all re-hash. I have seen her before! LOL! I thought they buried her.
17 posted on 09/09/2002 7:42:51 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: TXnMA
GVS: Why would prosecutors skip evidence? JD: Innocent screwup?

GVS: Why is this being ignored now? JD: I was turned away in 97. Never followed up on 99. Hope that congress will take it up now.

18 posted on 09/09/2002 7:45:32 PM PDT by sam_paine
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To: sam_paine
I understand they have been trying to get her on Radio FR. She has up to now refused.
19 posted on 09/09/2002 7:47:00 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: TXnMA
That was pretty compelling info this Jayna Davis of ksor has.
20 posted on 09/09/2002 7:47:10 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
I think you got it wrong: it was the KFC-Iraq connection.
21 posted on 09/09/2002 7:50:55 PM PDT by jraven
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
I was hoping they would have someone like Schippers or would deal with the Nichols-Phillipine connection, also. Oh, well, these facts that have been known to those of us working on the OKBIC report, and others like OKCSubmariner are finally being shared with the American public by major media now. I guess you could consider that major progress...

TXnMA (No Longer!!!)

22 posted on 09/09/2002 7:53:15 PM PDT by TXnMA
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To: Chi-townChief
McVeigh said in that interview he gave that the only thing that ever bothered him was killing an Iraqi soldier in the Gulf War while he considered the OKC people collateral damage.

I don't know if McVeigh was lying or not, but I think his admission of killing Iraquis during the war is suspect. Granted, I was in the rear (with the XVIII Airborne Corp Commander), but from what I remember, there weren't very many firefights between us and the Iraqui soldiers. When we began movement northward, the Iraqui soldiers I saw were happy to see us! Most of them didn't even have ammo. Not only that, they were using trash bags as NBC protection. It was rather sad, but I was glad that the resistance was useless.

23 posted on 09/09/2002 7:54:17 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: TXnMA
Jayna had too much info for me to digest in such a short time. I hope they nail these guys, should her info prove correct, and then nail the Clinton DoJ for turning a blind eye. Well, maybe they were just trying to keep from turning the US into a police state in response to local terrorist activities < /sarcasm >
24 posted on 09/09/2002 8:00:26 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: TXnMA
It's been an interesting time watching this story slowly come to mainstream. If accurate, and I think it may be, this sheds light on the past administration's usage of the crime.

The OKC bombing was used as the springboard for the Xlin-Ton people to declare cultural war on militias, Christians, guns - the right wing in general. You know, the traditional enemies of marxists.

This killed many birds with one stone including covering-up the ineptness of that administration. The truth of who planned and executed the OKC murders should be thouroghly investigated. IMHO.
25 posted on 09/09/2002 8:03:00 PM PDT by martian_22
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To: rdb3
they were using trash bags as NBC protection.

They hate Brokaw also? Seriously, though, I don't have a clue what NBC is.

I remember reading in Jones's book (I think) that McVeigh manned some sort of large caliber weapon, was an expert at it, and did hit at least one Iraqi. I believe it was backed up by people he served with.
26 posted on 09/09/2002 8:03:19 PM PDT by self_evident
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To: martian_22
It's been an interesting time watching this story slowly come to mainstream.

Here is The Wall Street Journal piece on this, from last week.

27 posted on 09/09/2002 8:09:22 PM PDT by Darling Lili
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
Did any of you see Hastert when he left the meeting where Bush shared his evidence against SH/Iraq with Congressional leaders? Hastert looked like someone had stuffed a spicy sour pickle in his mouth -- and maybe somewhere else, as well. One can't but wonder (and hope) that Bush will (finally) reveal the strong links between SH/Iraq and the Murrah bombing as additional justification for eliminating SH & his regime.

TXnMA (No LOnger!!!)

28 posted on 09/09/2002 8:10:40 PM PDT by TXnMA
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To: self_evident
You may be evident but NBC is nuclear,biological and chemical,as in warfare,is all of america this evident eficiant of this knowledge?
29 posted on 09/09/2002 8:11:31 PM PDT by eastforker
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To: self_evident
Seriously, though, I don't have a clue what NBC is.

NBC is the military acronym for Nuclear- Biologiccal and Chemical agents...

TXnMA (No Longer!!!)

30 posted on 09/09/2002 8:14:29 PM PDT by TXnMA
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To: self_evident
They hate Brokaw also? Seriously, though, I don't have a clue what NBC is.

Good one!

But seriously, I apologize. I should have known not to use military jargon since we have a lot here, like you, who don't know what I mean.

"NBC" stands for Nuclear, Biological, Chemical attacks and the protection against such attacks.

U.S. soliders on the ground are equipped with MOPP4 (Mission Oriented Protection Posture) such as chemical suits and protective masks. I was just comparing what we had to what they had, which was really nothing.

That goes to show that if Hussein doesn't care about his own soldiers and their welfare he most certainly doesn't care about what he does with his military.

31 posted on 09/09/2002 8:14:39 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: rdb3
Thanks. WMD I would have picked up. Plastic bags as protection? At least they know that Saddam wouldn't think twice about exposing and killing them. We will need people like that to help us after the shooting stops.
32 posted on 09/09/2002 8:24:22 PM PDT by self_evident
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To: TXnMA; ThePythonicCow; eastforker; RedBloodedAmerican
The Friday WSJ Editorial Board segment on CNBC last week had a Senior Editor who had been going over much material on the OKC Bombing and was giving some pretty big hints that there were a lot of unanswered questions and there was a possibility that there was foreign involvement! The implication that they might be chasing a developing story seemed pretty clear!
33 posted on 09/09/2002 8:58:28 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: All
They were apparently referencing the article at post #27.

They must do the show prior to Friday!

34 posted on 09/09/2002 9:05:30 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Darling Lili
Many thanks.

BTTT!
35 posted on 09/09/2002 9:07:43 PM PDT by martian_22
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Great_catch_at_the_Beach!!!

David Schippers has finally helped this story grow legs and I still have hope it'll finally pull the covers on both Saddistic Heusein and ol Billybentpecker!!! They both really have it coming to 'em!!!

They both think they really put one over on the Americans that they both despise and harbor contempt for.

That's ok, he who laughs last... Billie & Saddam, "be sure your sin will find you out."

36 posted on 09/09/2002 9:45:01 PM PDT by SierraWasp
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To: TXnMA
We're being funneled into the pen by experts.

Those of us who are usually (sneeringly) called "tin foil hatters" have read since 1997 (maybe '98) about McVeigh's meetings with "former" Iraqi soldiers who were settled in or near OKC. We've read about their meetings in local bars and the wad of money McVeigh was flashing shortly before the bombing.

Some of us even predicted that this information will come out if the government decides it needs a war with Iraq.

As for CNN, Fox and WJS, when they start reporting on the involvement of Dr. Louis Jolyen West (late court appointed psychiatrist of Jack Ruby, expert witness on mind control at Patti Hearst's trial and "former" MKUltra director) we'll start believing in their independent investigative skills. In the meantime, I think it's strange that these three particular news organizations come to the story now; CNN catches people on the left, Fox catches those on the right and the Wall Street Journal is aimed at mainstream. Very clever, these news releasers.

37 posted on 09/09/2002 9:59:16 PM PDT by jackliberty
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To: jackliberty
Well I wholeheartedly believe that OKC and Iraq are connected and the morons who would like to label me as tinfoil hat are just not ready to face reality. I hope and pray that GWB announces that OKC and Iraq are connected then this would prove what a fraud Clinton was, (not that we already don't know that).

But my father who is the most skeptical person in the world even told me that he believed Saddam Hussein was behind Flight 800. This surprised the heck out of me considering this came from him who never is a man to jump to conclusions without solid evidence.

To sum it up the Hitler of the Middle East is behind more than most want to admit and our friends in the media and the Clinton Administration/NTSB spent many years covering everything up.

38 posted on 09/09/2002 10:04:35 PM PDT by Dengar01
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To: TXnMA
Yep. I caught that segment. I'm glad Jayna Davis hasn't let this drop. I suspect details will dribble out over the next couple of months, as the facts of the Iraqi involvement will bolster the case against Saddam.

The gov't can just claim that they were investigating it all along...no coverup here!

I always knew something seemed missing in the gov't theory of the OKC bombing, and I don't consider myself a tinfoiler. It all fits together--the missing John Doe #2, McVeigh's strange quasi-pacifism and Iraqi sympathies, etc.

39 posted on 09/09/2002 10:08:50 PM PDT by B Knotts
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To: TXnMA
Seems this is finally being made public. We have been discussing this on FR for quite some time. I suppose the reason it is being told now is to help prepare the way to attack Iraq, which will be the second phase of the War on Terror, and not just a separate war as has been suggested.
40 posted on 09/09/2002 10:14:39 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: rdb3
but I think his admission of killing Iraquis during the war is suspect.

ABC News did a special on McViegh just before he assumed room temperature. Apparently he did kill at least one Iraqi. I dont remember the particulars, but when they interviewed the one or two other soilders who witnessed the event there was something 'memorable' about that particular kill. Either it was an incredible long and lucky shot or it was something about the way the Iraqis head exploded. Sorry about getting graphic, but the event apparently seriously affected McViegh. If you want to know what the 'hassashins' can do to a mind, just look at the turnabout Scott Ritter made. They have been practicing their art for over a thousand years.

41 posted on 09/09/2002 10:29:28 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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ping and

Regarding the pulled thread -
"Former CIA Director Knows Details of Iraqi Connection to OKC Bombing"
- using those words in a google search hits some interesting sites covering all this. Not totally discountable as B.S.

42 posted on 09/09/2002 10:33:59 PM PDT by flamefront
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To: OKCSubmariner
ping, see the previous
43 posted on 09/09/2002 10:34:51 PM PDT by flamefront
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To: TXnMA
If there was anything new in this interview,let us know. Thanks.gg
44 posted on 09/10/2002 1:03:55 AM PDT by glorygirl
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To: glorygirl
"If there was anything new in this interview,let us know."

It's ALL new to the sheeple....

45 posted on 09/10/2002 2:14:27 AM PDT by ~Vor~
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To: justa-hairyape
ABC News did a special on McViegh just before he assumed room temperature. Apparently he did kill at least one Iraqi.

I stand corrected.

46 posted on 09/10/2002 2:39:11 AM PDT by rdb3
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To: Darling Lili
Citing defense contentions Mr. al-Hussaini's counsel failed to dispute, the judge ruled that Ms. Davis had proved that Mr. al-Hussaini "bears a strong resemblance to the composite sketch of John Doe #2," including a tattoo on his left arm, that he was born and raised in Iraq, that he had served in the Iraqi army, and that his Oklahoma City employer had once been suspected by the federal government of having "connections with the Palestine Liberation Organization."

Wow! Quite a link. TY. Doesn't look like any posts after the Fox News broadcast. Must have been riveting.

47 posted on 09/10/2002 2:58:06 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: Dengar01
I've been wrapped up in tinfoil many times. Funny thing because, for a long time, I didn't see much evidence of an OKC conspiracy outside those 'evil' militias. I thought, well at least I'm skeptical about something. Then I saw the info brought out about some explosives analyst who said there had to be multiple charges inside the building. A web site showed his informed opinion in great detail.

Before my freeper days, I always thought it odd how quickly Clinton had that gargantuan photo op put together. Is this vindication time for the tinfoil hats? Freegards....

48 posted on 09/10/2002 3:04:10 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Is this vindication time for the tinfoil hats?

And a scathing indictment of the Republicans in Congress, that allowed the previous administration to divorce Terrorism from State Sponsorship for political ends.

49 posted on 09/10/2002 5:06:00 AM PDT by hobbes1
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To: hobbes1
Hard to understand why those Republicans in Congress did allow Clinton to get away with this, since it's hard to see how they benefited politically. Were they under orders from the people who finance them? If so, why did those big shots issue such orders?
50 posted on 09/10/2002 5:23:27 AM PDT by aristeides
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