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Margaret Carlson: "the Clintons will stab you in the back"
Newsmax.com ^ | Tuesday, Sept. 10, 2002 12:14 PM EST | Carl "from Oyster Bay" Limbacher

Posted on 09/10/2002 9:27:23 AM PDT by SlickWillard

Tuesday, Sept. 10, 2002 12:14 PM EST

Margaret Carlson: Hillary Stabbed Cuomo in the Back for Presidency

NewsMax was the first to report that Hillary Clinton was indeed running for the President.

Now, the idea of a Hillary Clinton candidacy has moved from laughter to accepted reality.

This past weekend, Margaret Carlson, co-host of CNN’s Capital Gang, said on-air that there is no doubt that Hillary is running for the White House.

Carlson, also a TIME magazine columnist, is one of the most connected liberals in Washington.

During the CNN show, Carlson explained why Andrew Cuomo pulled out of the Democratic primary in New York, throwing the race to State Comptroller Carl McCall, an African American.

Carlson said that Hillary’s sudden and unusual endorsement of McCall made Cuomo’s race untenable.

Why did Hillary make the unusual move of making an endorsement when she had previously promised to remain neutral?

Carlson said bluntly, "Hillary's running for president. They [the Clintons] wanted the black vote, and the Clintons just undermined [Cuomo].”

Carlson said Hillary’s endorsement proves the Clintons will stop at nothing to get back into the White House.

She said the Hillary endorsement demonstrated that "the Clintons will stab you in the back.”

Carlson recalled that during the Monica scandal, "The Clintons got [Cuomo’s] support during impeachment. If one Cabinet secretary had gone off during the Monica thing, Clinton would have been in a lot of trouble. Andrew Cuomo stuck by him.”

Cuomo had served as Clinton’s cabinet secretary at HUD.

Carlson complained, "They should have at least, the very least, remained neutral.”


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To: gridlock
Including Reich, the Clintonistas are 0-4 since 1/21/01.

Not to be a party-pooper, but y'all are forgetting that Clintonista guy in Chicago...

But...you're right enough! Based on the "statistics", the "little Clintons" are not looking good, and it will be so much more fun when the Clintons themselves are finally and duly gone!!

This will be more difficult to accomplish, but I have complete confidence and faith that it will happen, hopefully sooner rather than later...

101 posted on 09/10/2002 11:29:00 AM PDT by 88keys
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To: Desdemona
How to build a stack o'bodies.

<> "Stab you in the back" is rhetoric. I don't believe Margaret Carlson was accusing them of murder.<>

102 posted on 09/10/2002 11:31:25 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: Mo1
She said the Hillary endorsement demonstrated that "the Clintons will stab you in the back.”

I'm sure she meant that as a compliment.

But the next question is .. Will Carlson STILL back and support the Clintons no matter what??

Question kind of answers itself, doesn't it?
Whenever did these people not back and support the Clintons no matter what??

103 posted on 09/10/2002 11:33:52 AM PDT by Nogbad
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To: Mudboy Slim
Wonder if there is a single FReeper who believes otherwise?! Please, if there is anyone out there who STILL believes William Jefferson Blythe Clinton didn't participate in a Conspiracy to Commit the Murder of one or more folks who were once "friends" in his life, please oh please speak up!!

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104 posted on 09/10/2002 11:35:36 AM PDT by Catholicguy
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To: jlogajan
She said the Hillary endorsement demonstrated that "the Clintons will stab you in the back.”

She might have meant this figuratively, but the truth is literal.

105 posted on 09/10/2002 11:35:44 AM PDT by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: gridlock
"...Ol' Crusty just doesn't have coat-tails."

Very good observation and politically true. Now let's see how McCall does against Pataki.

106 posted on 09/10/2002 11:35:57 AM PDT by sultan88
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To: justshe
"It is also fairly obvious that there is NO file on Carlson.

This could get interesting. An avowed flaming liberal who has, in the past, carried water for the Clintons, has strayed FAR off the reservation."

If she owns a cat, she'd better keep an eye on it. And stay the heck out of Ft. Marcy Park.

107 posted on 09/10/2002 11:36:46 AM PDT by KeyBored
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To: SlickWillard
Shillary will wait until the last minute to announce for pres. If W is riding high she will wait for 2008 and throw Gore or someone else to the lions.
108 posted on 09/10/2002 11:42:30 AM PDT by breakem
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To: Mudboy Slim
Let's hope that's true, Mud! The thought of her as president sends chills up my spine.
109 posted on 09/10/2002 11:55:51 AM PDT by Marysecretary
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To: SkyPilot
I wish I had Photoshop. I'd do one of those organization charts the FBI used to do of crime families. BillyBob as capo, hillery as a crew captain.......
110 posted on 09/10/2002 12:01:24 PM PDT by Leisler
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To: Howlin
bumpity uppity
111 posted on 09/10/2002 12:03:55 PM PDT by timestax
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To: SlickWillard
They should have at least, the very least, remained neutral.

...or kissed him first.

112 posted on 09/10/2002 12:10:16 PM PDT by Fundamentally Fair
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To: SlickWillard
"the Clintons will stab you in the back"

Oh yeah, and they'll also RAPE YOU IN THE (---!.

113 posted on 09/10/2002 12:26:15 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: Nogbad
Question kind of answers itself, doesn't it?
Whenever did these people not back and support the Clintons no matter what??

True .. but it does seems like at least Margie is questioning how far are they willing to go to support them ..

114 posted on 09/10/2002 12:49:26 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Mudboy Slim
They want to be the torch of a new generation! Already scr***d the Kennedy's. It is the Clinton Democratic Party!
Very sad! I believe in a multi party system but the Clintons are evil!
115 posted on 09/10/2002 12:54:24 PM PDT by PROTESTBYPROXY
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To: Catholicguy
"Stab you in the back" is rhetoric. I don't believe Margaret Carlson was accusing them of murder."

I agree that Carlson wasn't accusing BillzaBubba of Murder, but I believe it is rather naive that all these ClintonCronies and acquaintances that were Arkancided were off'd without Slick Willie having a clue. If you've got the time, just chaeck out "Alamo-Girl's Downside Legacy"

While I find the Vincent Foster section to be fascinating, to me, the eeriest section has to be the one on...

"Jerry Luther Parks"

"Parks was the Chief of Security for Clinton's national campaign headquarters in Little Rock. Gunned down in his car on September 26, 1993 at the intersection of Chanaul Parkway and Cantrell Road, near Jacksonville, Arkansas (near Little Rock). Parks was shot through the rear window of his car. The assailant then pulled around to the driver's side of Park's car and shot him three more times with a 9mm pistol. His family reported that shortly before his death, they were being followed by unknown persons, and their home had been broken into (despite a top quality alarm system). Parks had been compiling a dossier on Clinton's illicit activities. The dossier was stolen. (1)

"When news of the discovery of Vincent Foster's body was reported, Parks is reported to have said, "Bill Clinton is cleaning house." (2)

"Parks' son, Gary, asserts in Circle of Power and The Clinton Chronicles (both video products of Linda Thompson's American Justice Federation) that his father collected a secret file of Clinton's indiscretions, and that his father was using the file to try to blackmail the Clinton campaign. (He also claims that Vince Foster knew of the file's existence as well.) Washington Weekly 11/17/97 "... All these illegitimate uses of campaign money have one thing in common. The money need not be laundered. It need only be brought in from the donor. And brought in it was. In planeloads of cash, brought in through the remote Mena airport and transferred to the trunk of the Cadillac of bag man Jerry Parks who, according to the London Telegraph, together with Vince Foster transported the illegal cash to Little Rock. Both Foster and Parks are now dead, and we have no idea how much cash was brought in through this route, though we suspect it surpassed the amount of money that was laundered into legitimate political spending. Of all the bag men discovered so far, six are now dead, 36 have pleaded the Fifth Amendment, eleven have fled the country, and eleven are living in foreign countries and refuse to cooperate...."

Newsmax.com 11/23/98 Carl Limbacher ".Could the work of murdered Little Rock security agent Jerry "Luther" Parks have played a role in Vince Foster's death? Last week, Insight magazine recounted the claim of Parks' wife Jane, who says that just days before the deputy White House counsel turned up dead in Fort Marcy Park, he called her husband and told him that he was going to turn a dossier prepared by Parks over to Hillary Clinton. Jane and her son Gary have told reporters that Jerry Parks had been hired by Foster at the direction of Mrs. Clinton to probe the extent of then-Gov. Clinton's womanizing -- with an eye toward damage control when Clinton ran for president. When Parks learned of Foster's death he exclaimed, "I'm a dead man," according to Mrs. Parks. The same Insight report covered Linda Tripp's recent testimony before Ken Starr's Monicagate grand jury, where she compared the reactions of top White House aides when they first learned of Foster's July '93 death and then of Parks' murder just two months later.."

7/20/98 Michael Reagan "...The night Foster died, a man named Jerry Luther Parks was watching TV in his Little Rock home when a news bulletin announced Foster's death. Parks turned pale. "I'm a dead man," he whispered. For weeks after Foster's death, he lived in fear, constantly watching his back, and even taking a gun with him when he went to the mailbox. On Sunday, September 25, 1993 -- two months after the Foster death -- Jerry Luther Parks was returning home from a restaurant when a white Chevy Caprice with two men pulled up alongside his car. The passenger sprayed Parks' car with semiautomatic gunfire, then jumped out and finished Parks off with a 9 mm handgun. The killers were never apprehended. Parks had been a player in Bill Clinton's Arkansas political machine for years, and first became acquainted with Foster by doing investigative work for the Rose Law Firm in the 1980s. The London Telegraph's Ambrose Evans-Pritchard reports that in the late '80s, Foster -- apparently on behalf of Hillary Clinton -- hired Parks to do surveillance on Bill Clinton "to gauge exactly how vulnerable her husband would be to charges of philandering" if he ran for president. Parks accumulated thick files (with photographs) detailing the future president's pattern of womanizing. According to Parks' widow, Foster called Parks from Washington about a week before his death, saying Hillary was frantic about those files and the potential damage they could cause both Bill and Hillary. Just a day or two before his death, Foster called Parks again, heatedly demanding the files. Parks refused. A week or so after Foster's death, the Parks home was broken into -- a sophisticated burglary in which phone lines and the alarm system were disabled. The files were stolen. Two months later, Parks was murdered…."

The Secret Life of Bill Clinton 1997 Ambrose Evans-Pritchard "……..It was another three months before news of the murder of Jerry Luther Parks reached me in Washington. The U.S. national media were largely unaware of the story, which surprised me because Parks had been in charge of security at the 1992 Clinton-Gore campaign headquarters in Little Rock. (4) …….. On my next trip to the state I decided to drop by at the archives of The Arkansas Democrat-Gazette to see if they had covered the death. There were two routine homicide stories by reporter Ward Pincus, mostly focusing on disputes that Parks had had with a former partner. ……… I contacted the writer...son of Walter Pincus, the intelligence correspondent for the Washington Post and a friend of Vincent Foster. …….. What his son told me was astounding. When he spoke to Jane Parks the day after the death, she said that her husband had been involved with Vince Foster and she seemed to think there was a political dimension to the murder. She was distraught, almost hysterical. Ward Pincus did not know what to make of it, so he consulted his editors at The Democrat-Gazette. Should he go out to visit the widow and try to find out what on earth she was talking about? No, they said, don't' bother. Soon afterward, Jane Parks withdrew into her shell and refused to give any interviews to the press. ……."

The Secret Life of Bill Clinton 1997 Ambrose Evans-Pritchard "……..Contact with Foster was rare after he moved to the White House. But he telephoned in mid-July 1993, about a week before his death. He explained that Hillary had worked herself into a state about "the files," worried that there might be something in them that could cause real damage to Bill or herself. The conversation was brief and inconclusive. Jerry told Vince Foster that there was indeed "plenty to hurt both of them. But you can't give her those files, that was the agreement." Jerry did not seem perturbed at the time. A few days later Foster called again. Jane is sure that it was either Sunday, July 18, or Monday, July 19, the night before Foster's death. Jerry was in the living room with his feet up, watching the History Channel on TV. Jane was puttering in and out of the kitchen. It was around 8:30 PM central time. "Vince was calling from a pay phone," said Jane, who overheard one side of the conversation and then learned the rest from Jerry afterward. "He kept feeding coins into the box, and then he told Jerry to hold on. He must have been near a mini-mart or something because he said he had to get more coins. (19) Then he called a second time, and they spoke for 30 minutes or more." This time it was a heated exchange. Vince said that he had made up his mind. He was going to hand over the files and wanted to be sure that he had the complete set. "You're not going to use those files!" said Jerry, angrily. Foster tried to soothe him. He said he was going to meet Hillary at "the flat" and he was going to give her the files. You can't do that," said Parks. "My name's all over this stuff. You can't give Hillary those files. You can't! Remember what she did, what you told me she did. She's capable of doing anything.!" "We can trust Hil. Don't worry," Said Foster. ……."

The Secret Life of Bill Clinton 1997 Ambrose Evans-Pritchard "...Whatever Foster said to Jerry Parks, he cannot possibly have met with Hillary Clinton at "the flat" or anywhere else. She was on the West Coast during the days preceding his death. On the afternoon of July 20, she was on an aircraft flying from Los Angeles to Little Rock. But that does not preclude the grim possibility that Foster thought he was going to a rendezvous with the First Lady on July 20, and met his death instead. The rambler style home of the Parks family was swarming with federal agents on the day after Jerry's assassination. Jane remembers men flashing credentials from the FBI, The Secret Service, the IRS, and she thought, the CIA. Although the CIA made no sense. Nothing made any sense. The federal government had no jurisdiction over a homicide case, and to this day the FBI denies that it ever set foot in her house. But the FBI was there, she insisted, with portable x-ray machines and other fancy devices. An IRS computer expert was flown in from Miami to go through Jerry's computers. Some of them stayed until 2:00 or 3:00 in the morning..............The FBI agent in charge was a tall man of about fifth, with blue eyes. Tom somebody, she thought. He never left a card. Jane was under the impression that he was from the Hot Springs office, which didn't make any sense either. When she told him that the murder might have a political dimension because of Jerry's dealings with Vince Foster and Bill Clinton, the man cut her short. "He threw up his hands and said, 'I don't want to hear anything about that.'" …… With the help of the Little Rock Police Department the FBI ransacked the place, confiscating files, records, and 130 tapes of telephone conversations-- without giving a receipt. "I've asked them to give it all back, but the police refuse to relinquish anything. They told me there's nothing they can do about the case as long as Bill Clinton is in office." ...I do not pretend to understand why Jerry Parks was murdered. But the indictions that the Parks case is somehow intertwined with the death of Vincent Foster is surely compelling enough to warrant a proper investigation. Instead, nobody cares to learn what Mrs. Parks has to say. …….."

After Waco and Kosovo, I have no doubt that Bill Clinton is capable of cold-blooded murder, my FRiend, and based on a lot of stuff I've read around here, I'm confident Der SchleekMeister AT LEAST had prior knowledge that political liabilites were being disposed of by people in his employ. However, please check out A-G's compilation and come to your own conclusions. In any event, I don't think we'll be able to make the Conspiracy to Murder charge stick and should concentrate our efforts to Imprison Clinton on other crimes that are easier to prove in a court of law.

FReegards...MUD

116 posted on 09/10/2002 1:15:58 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: 88keys
"have you any highly speculative theory of your own"

After having read some of Mudboy's stuff I suspect part of it is in creating the illusion that she is a king maker. But my gut tells me that's only the half of it. There's a big "ahaaaa!" moment coming somewhere down the road. We'll know it when it happens.

117 posted on 09/10/2002 1:16:33 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost
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To: PROTESTBYPROXY
"It is the Clinton Democratic Party!"

Yup...the DemonRATS have sacrificed all the good-will they had built up over years and years when they threw their lot in with the Despicable Duo. But it's inarguably Clinton's Party now.

"I believe in a multi party system but the Clintons are evil!"

Yep...MUD

118 posted on 09/10/2002 1:21:08 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: Marysecretary
"Let's hope that's true..."

I'm pretty sure it is...America's not as naive as they were ten years ago...MUD

119 posted on 09/10/2002 1:22:21 PM PDT by Mudboy Slim
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To: Mudboy Slim; ForGod'sSake; scholar
"'She said the Hillary endorsement demonstrated that 'the Clintons will stab you in the back.'"

Marge Carleson said that, huh?
Were her hands behind her back?
Where the hell's she been for 80% of the 90s; when, the sleeze & sleezette bags-two *infested* the WH, anyway?

OK; just what does *she* want?

...one's simply *compelled* to wonder.

120 posted on 09/10/2002 1:43:46 PM PDT by Landru
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