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Cicero: "Whether clinton actually wanted the bombing to happen, or whether there was a screw-up and the FBI failed to stop it in time, is the $64 question."

Submitted for your consideration:

1. There was a comprehensive massive counter-terror bill introduced 2 months before the bombing that was going nowhere. It was passed easily afterwards.

2. The FBI counter-terror director (Ross, I believe) checked into his hotel in OK City the night before the bombing, and subsequently lied about it claiming he had been in Dallas and drove up immediatley afterward at high-speed. (Per hotel receipt he checked in 12:20 AM 4/19/95)

3. None of the FBI were in the building at the time.

4. A bomb squad showed up earlier in the morning prior to the blast.

5. Reports of multiple bombs set to go off in the building were found and broadcast live.

6. Governor Tom Keating's brother, who writes spy/espionage novels and claims on his website to have insider connections to that world (ala Tom Clancy) wrote a book 2 years prior to the bombing that described a white terrorist by name of McVey who blew up govt buildings with a truck bomb.

7. A group of approximantely 5000 Iraqi Republican Guard were relocated to OK City after the Gulf War (Washington Times)

And these are just some of the incriminating facts demonstrating prior knowledge, involvement and coverup by not just Clinton, but others as well.

Now we also know that the powers that be wanted to invade Afghanistan as far back as 1997 (Per Zbignew Brzenski's book The Grand Chessboard), but needed a provocation to get the American public to go along. About that time, Osama Bin-Laden relocated to Afghanistan.

Now we also know that Donald Rumsfeld was preparing a plan to attack Iraq at the same time as 9/11 and wrote in his notes re: that attack to put all contingencies into effect to tie it to Saddam Hussein ("S.H.") and attack Iraq in response as well.

All this implies a strategy being employed, not incompetence.

What's Keating's brother's name? Or the name of the book?

Incidentially, a few months back I bought a book called, The Towers, written byRobert Andrews. Published May 1996. Front cover shows the WTC Towers. Back of the book says:

Jumping back into the game, Sims finds America is a target. War has been declared-- not for land, wealth, or political agendas, but against the Great Satan, Uncle Sam.......

I haven't read it yet, but your post reminded me of it.

Are the terrorists using espionage books to plan their attacks???

Now we also know that the powers that be wanted to invade Afghanistan as far back as 1997 (Per Zbignew Brzenski's book The Grand Chessboard), but needed a provocation to get the American public to go along. About that time, Osama Bin-Laden relocated to Afghanistan.

Your theories are well thought out and have some logical support. There is however one problem I see. Why not blame the OKC bombing on the foreign terrorist back then ? Why shift the blame to 'domestic terrorism' ? Think of how the country would have rallied behind Clintoon because of the terrible act of middle eastern terrorism committed in the 'heartland' of America. The only possible explanation I can see is that Clintoon hijacked their plans and used them to go after those 'right wingers' who were causing him political problems.

Here are some other interesting things I remember from those of us who were frequently posting on the newsgroups back then. Right after that bombing a couple of new posters appeared who were obviously trying to persuade right wingers to support McViegh. They were unsuccessful. I also remember getting a private email from Rivero back then. After I called McViegh a mass murderer who was obviously timing the actual bombing to kill as many of the workers within the building as possible, Rivero told me in private email that McViegh got hung up in traffic and may have been trying to get the truck to explode earlier.

Just some more tidbits for you to ponder.