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(Canadian) PM links attacks to 'arrogant' West (meaning the USA only of course)
National Post ^ | Sheldon Alberts

Posted on 09/12/2002 7:56:19 AM PDT by Grig

PM links attacks to 'arrogant' West 'You cannot exercise your power to the point of humiliation of others': Chrétien

Sheldon Alberts, Deputy Ottawa Bureau Chief National Post

Thursday, September 12, 2002

OTTAWA - Jean Chrétien has linked the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks to perceived Western greed and arrogance and said the United States should not use its position as the world's only superpower to humiliate people in poorer nations.

In an interview that aired last night on CBC-TV, the Prime Minister for the first time suggested the strikes against New York and Washington stemmed from a growing international anger at the way the United States flexes its muscle around the globe.

"You cannot exercise your powers to the point of humiliation for the others. That is what the Western world -- not only the Americans, the Western world -- has to realize. Because they are human beings too. There are long-term consequences," Chrétien said in the pre-taped interview.

"And I do think that the Western world is getting too rich in relation to the poor world and necessarily will be looked upon as being arrogant and self-satisfied, greedy and with no limits. The 11th of September is an occasion for me to realize it even more."

The Prime Minister's remarks were part of a documentary about Canada's response to the Sept. 11 attacks that included revelations that, at one point that day, Chrétien gave tentative authorization for fighter pilots to shoot down a Korean Airlines 747 that military commanders feared had been hijacked over the Yukon.

Senior officials also revealed that dozens of jumbo jets were ordered to land in Gander, Nfld., and other remote East Coast airports because the government did not want to risk crashes or hijackings near major central Canadian cities such as Toronto and Montreal.

But Chrétien's remarks about the causes of anti-U.S. sentiment are likely to generate the most controversy. Leftist intellectuals from Susan Sontag to Canada's Naomi Klein have suggested U.S. foreign policy is one of the "root causes" of the attacks, while others say that argument amounts to blaming the victim.

The Prime Minister suggested Western nations -- and the United States in particular -- have alienated the rest of the world by trying to impose their values around the globe. Americans, he said, need to be nicer in how they operate on the international stage.

"It is always the problem when you read history -- everybody don't know when to stop. There is a moment, you know, when you have to stop," Chrétien said.

"There is a moment when you are very powerful. I said that in New York one day. It was on Wall Street. It was a crowd of capitalists, of course, and they were complaining because [Canada] had normal relations with Cuba, and this and that, and we cannot do everything we want. And I said that day -- if I recall, I used probably these words -- when you are powerful like you are, you guys, it is the time to be nice."

David Collenette, the Transport Minister, went further, comparing the United States to a hockey bully that may feel free to dominate world affairs because it no longer has such superpower enemies as the Soviet Union to keep it in check.

"There will be people in the U.S. emboldened by their new source of unfettered power to, in a hockey term, get their elbows up," Collenette said.

Chrétien also said he likes to maintain a detached relationship with U.S. presidents because "Canadians don't want to be looked upon as the 51st state."

"I have very good relations with President [George W.] Bush. I had very good relations with president Clinton. But I keep my distances," he said.

The CBC documentary was aired as part of the network's coverage of the one-year anniversary of Sept. 11. During the program, Chrétien revealed that he gave orders to commanders at NORAD's Canadian headquarters in Winnipeg for fighter jets to be prepared to shoot down a Korean Airlines 747 that the U.S. military feared was part of the terrorist plot.

The plane, flying over the Yukon, was being tailed by two U.S. F-16 fighters after giving off a signal that indicated it had been hijacked. A Canadian NORAD commander sought orders from Chrétien to fire on the plane if pilots believed it was headed to a heavily populated city such as Vancouver.

Chrétien said he agonized over the decision.

"He said, 'We might have to shoot them down.' So I said yes, if you think they are terrorists. I said you call me again, but be ready to shoot them down. So I authorized it in principle, yes," he said.

"It is kind of scary. You know this plane that has hundreds of people and you have to call a decision like that.... You have to be ready for that. You have to be calm and in control yourself and say what I'll risk. And if they tell you, there is a plane that can go and land in Toronto and kill thousands of people, you have no choice."

The plane eventually landed safely and the feared hijacking was a false alarm.

There were also new details about why Canadian authorities directed dozens of airline jets to such East Coast airports as Gander International on Sept. 11 after the United States closed its airspace.

Collenette and Margaret Bloodworth, the deputy minister of transport, said there were fears that other planes could be hijacked and Transport Canada did not want to risk attacks on major population centres in Central Canada, so the majority of the jets were sent to the East Coast.

"If there were people of similar intent on those planes and they felt they were going to lose their target in the U.S., we didn't know they wouldn't pick a target of a large building in another city," Bloodworth said.

Said Collenette: "In talking with her, she said we don't know what has happened but we have got to keep these planes away from Montreal or Toronto. I said absolutely."

In all, 250 aircraft with 44,000 people were diverted to 15 Canadian airports. More than 6,500 passengers landed in Gander.


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To: Grig
Thank YOU, Bill Clinton!!! ---- for this perceived image.

I have a yellowed clipping on my desk ---"Perhaps never in the history of the world has a country with such military might, economic strength and cultural influence had so little imperialistic interest or practice."

The clipping goes on to say that the US usually emerges as a world policeman only after those who should be patrolling the streets have failed-----. (the Europeans in Bosnia, the UN in Iraq.)

The clipping was commenting on the reaction of people in a town meeting with Clinton. It said that the meeting should send Europe the most shocking news of the week "that Americans might someday be unwilling to provide the international insurance we all need."

I have to keep remembering that this is a socialist talking, and is expressing his socialist views. Maybe he can take the lead and show us how to be "nice" to terrorists.

I'm not ticked off at Canadians, never have been, and never will. We had our Clinton, and they stood by us.

21 posted on 09/12/2002 8:43:18 AM PDT by Exit148
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To: headsonpikes
For example, observe Chretien and his Quebecois compatriots. Defeated but not crushed by the Brits--therefore ongoing 'humiliation'. Compare to Scotland.

So maybe the US should invade Quebec?

22 posted on 09/12/2002 8:45:15 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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To: Paleo Conservative
Actually, a few carloads of Albertans may be sufficient. ;^)

(Just kidding! Quebec is great--Cretin is an idiot.)
23 posted on 09/12/2002 8:50:56 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: newgeezer
"I like to draw a parallel to Liberals and their underlying (sometimes blatant) class envy and contempt for the "rich""

Except for the fact there are many very wealthy liberals, too

24 posted on 09/12/2002 8:56:06 AM PDT by Eowyn-of-Rohan
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To: Exit148; Grig
Exit, good post! I agree. But I didn't understand Grig's post to be to the contrary: he's just challenging the viewpoint of the Prime Minister, not all Canadians. Am I missing something?
25 posted on 09/12/2002 8:57:02 AM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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To: Polybius
Let's use our power to humiliate Canada instead.

Too late. Jean Chrétien beat you to it.

26 posted on 09/12/2002 8:57:50 AM PDT by No Truce With Kings
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To: Grig

27 posted on 09/12/2002 9:01:24 AM PDT by glock rocks
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To: No Truce With Kings
Cretin didn't say anything that Klinton hadn't already said, it's not just Canadians that believe this tripe.
28 posted on 09/12/2002 9:01:46 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Grig
This kind of talk infuriates me, What is up with this guy? There are so many negative things that can be said at this point towards Canada because of his behavior. BUT I hope that other Americans will try to think of it in this way as well while they grit their teeth. When bill clinton was in office, he was a class A moron, and definitely didn't speak for all Americans. I am trying to think of this guy in the same light in regards to alot of Canadians that I am sure disagree with him.
29 posted on 09/12/2002 9:01:58 AM PDT by KineticKitty
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To: dfwgator
Cretin didn't say anything that Klinton hadn't already said, it's not just Canadians that believe this tripe.

Yeah, Clinton's humiliating, too.

30 posted on 09/12/2002 9:07:14 AM PDT by No Truce With Kings
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To: Grig
Jean Chrétien has linked the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks to perceived Western greed and arrogance and said the United States should not use its position as the world's only superpower to humiliate people in poorer nations.

Examples, please Mr. PM.

31 posted on 09/12/2002 9:10:46 AM PDT by ladtx
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To: Grig
Chrétien > Is that pronounced Cretin?
32 posted on 09/12/2002 9:23:44 AM PDT by DinkyDau
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To: Grig
What do you expect....Cretin is a French name.
33 posted on 09/12/2002 9:29:06 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: DinkyDau
No, it's said like creh-chen, but we do think of him as a cretin.
34 posted on 09/12/2002 9:30:52 AM PDT by Grig
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To: Grig
Chretien:

You have been here too long for any good you have been doing. In the name of God, go!
35 posted on 09/12/2002 9:41:06 AM PDT by Loyalist
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To: ladtx
Jean Chrétien has linked the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks to perceived Western greed and arrogance and said the United States should not use its position as the world's only superpower to humiliate people in poorer nations.

Examples, please Mr. PM.

Don't even bother to ask. Liberals are under no compunction to prove their delusions. Besides, parroting this b.s. makes "Da Moron" feel like he's part of the liberal elites, the sophisticated crowd. Besides, like Mark Steyn's article (available tomorrow) says, liberals love this "moral preening", because it makes them feel oh-so-morally superior.

Chrétien is no leader, but merely a slavish follower of social fashion. And an idiot.

36 posted on 09/12/2002 9:49:50 AM PDT by NorthernRight
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To: Grig
Jean Chrétien has linked the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks to perceived Western greed and arrogance and said the United States should not use its position as the world's only superpower to humiliate people in poorer nations.

Yes, that's right, M. Creepien. We, as Americans, go around trying to purposefully humiliate people in poorer nations. That is our national purpose - the objective of our work and toil, our sweat and smarts. We teach our kids to humiliate others - especially the poor and downtrodden. We deserved, as you imply, to have thousands of innocent men, women and many, many little children burned and slammed to death last year. We are to blame. That was a rightful puhishment for our sins. So good of you to set us on the right course. We are so, so lucky to have a moral giant to the north. You are the end-all and be-all. If only our president could be as courageous and as strong a defender of the right as you are. Woe is us, woe is us...

37 posted on 09/12/2002 10:02:47 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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To: No Truce With Kings
Chretien was/is a good buddy to Clinton. Wanted Gore to win the election. He is merely echoing the sinkmeister. His replacement (supposedly in early 2004) Paul Martin at least sounds better when he speaks. Policy wise no change is expected. His last name btw is the french word for Christian so in English he would be named John Christian.
38 posted on 09/12/2002 10:07:57 AM PDT by xp38
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To: Phantom Lord
Outside of Beer and Crown Royal, what exactly does Canada produce on its own and import to America?

Crude oil for starters. We import more from them than from the middle east. Also timber products and minerals. Canada is primarily valuable to us for its vast natural resources (and cheap English speaking labor).

39 posted on 09/12/2002 10:08:37 AM PDT by tortoise
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To: Polybius
O.K. Let's use our power to humiliate Canada instead.

Great idea, except that there's no need to. (though I could use a few more Canadian jokes in my repertoire!).

40 posted on 09/12/2002 10:12:15 AM PDT by yendu bwam
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