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Allies, After All?
The Weekly Standard ^ | 09/23/2002 | Christopher Caldwell

Posted on 09/14/2002 7:41:27 AM PDT by Pokey78

Except in Germany, European support for the president grows.

IN HIS ADDRESS to the United Nations General Assembly last Thursday, President Bush, perhaps without meaning to, used a word that always jolts Europeans like a burst of electroshock. The word--which came up towards the end of his case against Saddam Hussein's weapons buildup--is "irrelevance." That afternoon, at a European "constitutional convention" in Brussels, the Spanish eurodeputy I igo Mendez de Vigo lamented: "The president of the United States never speaks of the European Union. Only of Spain, the United Kingdom, France, and so on." In other words, "Europe" and "European opinion" and "the European leadership" suddenly looked like fictional terms for airy entities.

Meanwhile, the political landscape of the real Europe--the Europe of countries--has been transformed by the president's speech. One after another, the countries fell into line. Norwegian prime minister Kjell Magne Bondevik called the speech "multilateral," which is Norwegian for "Count us in." Anders Fogh Rasmussen, the prime minister of Denmark (which holds the rotating E.U. presidency), had already expressed his (and Bush's) view that Iraq's violation of the U.N. resolutions passed during the Gulf War was sufficient casus belli, and that no new resolution was necessary. Spanish prime minister Jose Mar a Aznar went further, saying, "Spain does not want the U.N. to become an obstacle to military intervention if that is decided on." Italian premier Silvio Berlusconi described military action as the "logical consequence" of Saddam's deeds. (Causing Milan's pro-Berlusconi newspaper La Stampa to write, without irony: "The Washington-London-Rome triangle is functioning marvelously.")

France had appeared for weeks to be the toughest diplomatic nut to crack. The French snickered privately at the suivisme ("follower-ism") of Tony Blair, and insisted that Washington produce a link between Saddam Hussein's Iraq and al Qaeda before they would support an invasion. What's more, polls indicated growing antipathy to the United States. A survey taken for Le Monde in early September showed not only that the French opposed a U.S. incursion into Iraq by 67 percent to 24 percent, but also that French voters ranked the United States and Israel as two of the top five "threats to world peace."

But France has moved from sniping skepticism to heartfelt (if ad hoc) support. On Thursday, the Ministry of Defense announced that its own evaluation of Iraq's biological and chemical weapons capabilities was "very convergent" with those of Washington and London. The next day, Defense Minister Michele Alliot-Marie told an interviewer on Europe 1 television that, even should the U.N. Security Council vote against an American invasion, "Nothing is ruled out."

What France gets out of this shift is relevance. Following much-publicized consultations between Bush and Chirac, the speech allowed Chirac to take credit for rescuing Bush for multilateralism. France also gets an economically crucial say in how any post-Saddam regime would be run. And the Chirac government may even reap a political benefit, for the same polls that show an impatience with the United States also show a steadily growing panic in France over Islamic extremism.

By contrast, the president's speech has thrown Germany into a foreign policy crisis. Two months ago, lagging badly in the polls, Socialist chancellor Gerhard Schroder began to attack the United States for war-mongering. The problem is, his electoral libido got the better of him. Like Bill Clinton, Schroder is most alive when he's on the campaign trail, and his rhetoric quickly spun out of control. Having been more forward than any Western leader after the September 11 attacks in declaring his "unconditional solidarity" (uneingeschrankte Solidaritat) with the United States, he now threw at the United States what the conservative Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung called an uneingeschranktes Nein.

Schroder quickly made up a 10-point deficit in the polls, pulling ahead of his conservative Bavarian rival Edmund Stoiber. It was tough to tell if his Nein on Iraq deserved the credit. A recent poll by ZDF television showed 50 percent of Germans opposed to an American invasion of Iraq and 49 percent in favor. Schroder's Iraq demarche coincided with devastating floods on eastern Germany's rivers, which washed away tens of billions of dollars in newly redeveloped property, most of which had been underwritten by the German taxpayer. Schroder was omnipresent, consoling the washed-out locals with Clintonesque assurance.

Schroder spoke of Iraq at every appearance, and his team insisted it was his statesmanship, not his hugging prowess, that had boosted him. Stoiber's people behaved as if they believed it, too. Stoiber, like Bill Clinton in 1992 or George W. Bush in 2000, is short on foreign policy experience. He reacted to Schroder's Iraq challenge by trying to duck it. Germany had too few troops to send to Iraq anyway, he said, so who cares what we think?

Within hours after Bush's U.N. appearance, this entire dynamic had shifted. Stoiber praised the speech as a strengthening of the U.N. But at an election rally in Regensburg, Schroder did not mention it. Interior minister of Brandenburg Jorg Schonbohm, a Stoiber ally, attacked Schroder by invoking the past in a way that is almost unheard of in German politics: "If the United States had behaved towards Hitler the way this government wants to behave towards Iraq, the Germans would never have been liberated from National Socialism."

By the time Friday morning's papers came out, it appeared the mood of the country was shifting Stoiber-wards. Predictably, the Frankfurter Allgemeine sneered: "The leaders in London and Paris are working to win back America for the United Nations and to win back the United Nations for America. The leaders in Berlin are working to stay in office." But the center-left Suddeutsche Zeitung took the same tone: "With his thoughtless remarks, chancellor Gerhard Schroder has mired the Federal Republic even deeper in geopolitical irrelevance. The decisions will be made by others, and the only countries consulted will be those ready for dialogue. Germany may find it has isolated itself--from Europe and from the world. . . . If we're to take the chancellor at his word, while the world community fights to avert a 'grave and gathering danger,' Germany will be the only country that sits it out."

In the Bundestag on Friday, during the last parliamentary debate before the elections, Schroder said he stood by the anti-terror coalition. He mocked Stoiber, saying he was unfit to be chancellor. But his uneingeschranktes Nein was suddenly nowhere to be heard. Stoiber, meanwhile, went on the offensive. Schroder's Green party foreign minister Joschka Fischer had said Bush's speech "reinforced [his] profound worries" that a war against Iraq would link fundamentalists and Arab nationalists in a coalition against the West. Stoiber accused the pair of them of "campaigning for anti-American votes."

Schroder's is now the only important dissent from the American ultimatum on Iraq. Given that he fought a pitched battle for weeks last winter to get his own party to commit troops to Afghanistan, it is the consensus of German political observers that he wishes to retreat from his position should he be reelected on September22. The problem is that he has stated his position with such inebriated vehemence that it will now be difficult to climb down from it. That may explain the timing of Tony Blair's September 24 presentation to Parliament, where he will release his "proofs" of Iraqi weapons-of-mass-destruction capacity. Perhaps they will suffice to bring Schroder on board. If only I had known!, he will say. French, British, and Americans will refrain from mentioning that much of the evidence concerning Saddam's production of chemical and biological weapons over the years has come from German sources.


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To: Pokey78
funny that since the left has routinely attacked Bush as unilateralist, isolationist, etc, that Bush has used the U.N. as marverlous tool to shift world opinion. By the time all is said and done, we'll have a coalition for Gulf War II that'll look remarkably similiar to that of Gulf War I, i'm predicting.
21 posted on 09/14/2002 10:29:06 AM PDT by mikenola
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To: xJones
They blowed up real good!


22 posted on 09/14/2002 10:42:56 AM PDT by Stultis
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To: Pokey78
French voters ranked the United States and Israel as two of the top five "threats to world peace."

...a steadily growing panic in France over Islamic extremism.

The French are all nuts.

23 posted on 09/14/2002 11:19:02 AM PDT by watchin
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To: DB; Pokey78
<< Or should every one of the 50 [Sovereign] United States of America have a vote? >>

Good question.

But for the traitor, Lincoln.
24 posted on 09/14/2002 4:21:11 PM PDT by Brian Allen
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To: watchin
the french are morons no offense to....wait nm offense should be taken
25 posted on 09/14/2002 4:21:39 PM PDT by StPatrick
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To: StPatrick
the frecnh think the jews are a threat to peace? (when they handed the jews to nazis and got wwii?) wow, they dont realize that its the hatred of jews, not jews that causes wars.... (as says the Bible, they are God's people)
26 posted on 09/14/2002 4:24:23 PM PDT by MacDorcha
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To: MacDorcha
well no one ever said the french were smart but we do know they smell
27 posted on 09/14/2002 4:26:29 PM PDT by StPatrick
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To: StPatrick
mabye that was their best defense in WWII??
28 posted on 09/14/2002 4:26:56 PM PDT by StPatrick
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To: VOA; Pokey78; shaggy eel; Byron_the_Aussie; dennisw
For the historical record:

<< As of the 6:00AM Pacific Time ABC Radio News on KABC 790 AM in Los Angeles, the governments that have lined up with the USA against Sadaam:

1. U.K.
2. Poland
3. Italy. >>

As of 0846 on September 11 and every millisecond since the POPULATIONS that have lined up with Our Beloved FRaternal Republic -- and have never wavered -- are those of Israel, Australia and New Zealand.

EXAMPLE:

As of this week a large majority of the UK public -- and NINETY PER CENT of the members Blair's UK Labour [Socialist] Party government -- were vehemently against any UK involvement in Iraq!
29 posted on 09/14/2002 4:31:18 PM PDT by Brian Allen
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To: StPatrick
their BEST defence was sidestpeed b/s they werent smart enough to cover the entire border.... then they gave it the ol' french try (brilliant 5 minutes of fighting followed by "we surrender") because the jerry artillary got within range of paris (and the good ol' boys of britain, in the mean time, took several air raids in london) respect the brits... froggies can kiss it
30 posted on 09/14/2002 4:31:19 PM PDT by MacDorcha
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To: MacDorcha
alas the froggies lost it and guess who sav ed them.... the U.S. and now thier calling us a threat????? umm yeah call the guy who saved u the bad guy
31 posted on 09/14/2002 4:35:41 PM PDT by StPatrick
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To: Pokey78
Well of course the Euros will line up...on the sidelines. They are happy to say: "Let's you and him fight."
32 posted on 09/14/2002 4:36:11 PM PDT by dark_lord
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To: xJones; Stultis
Hahahahaha! Dubya, that "stupid, unsophisticated cowboy" told the U.N. off great.
They blowed up real good!


No kidding!
And I love Dubya given' those effete snobs/thugs at the UN that most pornographic
term for a diplomat/politician:
IRRELEVANT

My only fear is that just as happened when (IIRC) Bret Hume raised that concern
to then-President Clinton, the stinker got busy with his political resurrection.

As for the UN (at least for constituent members like Cuba and Sudan), as far
as I'm concerned, the institution could expire of irrelevancy tomorrow and
I'd throw a party to celebrate the happy, liberating event.
33 posted on 09/14/2002 4:42:02 PM PDT by VOA
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To: speedy
Besides England and Italy, Spain is very supportive. Denmark, Norway are on board.
The French are backtracking toward us. The advanced Eastern Euros (Poland, Czech Rep.,
Russia) are with us. And as our miitary victory becomes obvious, everybody from Syria
to Libya will be saying they were with us all along. W outsmarts the world again.


I repeat your post and thank you for amplifying on my theme.

And I will mention that the ABC News report this morning did also mention
that Spain was openly supportive.

Nice to hear about the others...and thanks.
34 posted on 09/14/2002 4:44:21 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Pokey78
Europe is too crowded, in fact the main problem with Europe is that many of their villages are only a few kilotons apart.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

35 posted on 09/14/2002 4:45:46 PM PDT by LonePalm
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To: watchin
The French are all nuts.

Not all, mostly they're cheesy.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

36 posted on 09/14/2002 4:48:03 PM PDT by LonePalm
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To: StPatrick
What do you mean, "NO OFFENSE?" You obviously haven't been near a French politician or waiter lately.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

37 posted on 09/14/2002 4:49:40 PM PDT by LonePalm
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To: Brian Allen
As of 0846 on September 11 and every millisecond since the POPULATIONS that have lined
up with Our Beloved FRaternal Republic -- and have never wavered --
are those of Israel, Australia and New Zealand.


Thanks for chiming in and expanding the list (beyond my humble stsrt).
Israel...that goes without saying. I was suprised when I heard on (IIRC)
CBS Evening News (Friday night) that Sadaam had bankrolled the current
intifada (sp?) to the tune of $30 MILLION

I knew Sadaam was giving out those cash prizes of $10K to $25K to the family of
suicide/homicide bomber...but I'd not heard any other news source actually give
out that sort of statistic.

For Australia, I'm not too suprised. I remember how radio commentator Paul Harvey
was following the story of the Australian Prime Minister's tough policy
at keeping out refugees (many of them Iraquis). This was just days before 9-11.
Made the guy look like a freakin' (and practical) genius.

And New Zealand, I don't know enough about...but did see their choral memorial
service that kicked off the world's remembrance of 9-11.

As of this week a large majority of the UK public -- and NINETY PER CENT of the
members Blair's UK Labour [Socialist] Party government -- were vehemently
against any UK involvement in Iraq!


As much as it PAINS me to say this...Tony Blair hit the right note with me a few
days after 9-11 when he said (given the rough knowldedge of the death toll
then):
"Do you have any doubt that if they could, the terrorists would
have not killed 70,000, instead of 7,000?"


When Blair first came out like that I figured that it was just the act of
political animal...but I'd welcome it anyway.
His actions since them make me feel as though he's probably well-versed
in the life of Churchill in the 1930's...and he's decided that he'd rather
be ruined as a politician than to let his country go soft.

Besides, I suspect the undercurrent with the "average" Brit must be MUCH more
aligned with the average US citizen on Iraq than the press has (or will) reveeal.

I visited western England in 1996 (Bristol, Bath) and didn't meet a person who
would admit to having voted for Margaret Thatcher.
Of course, I was visiting with academic colleagues, which could explain that sort
of incredible demographic...
38 posted on 09/14/2002 4:59:25 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Brian Allen
As of this week a large majority of the UK public -- and NINETY PER CENT of the members Blair's UK Labour [Socialist] Party government -- were vehemently against any UK involvement in Iraq!

Yes, because the majority of the British media are anti-American and are presenting biased and misleading information to the British people. Blair is set on the path to war and the leftist/liberal contingent will have to go along with him once he has put forward his case.

39 posted on 09/14/2002 6:12:29 PM PDT by David Hunter
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To: dennisw
Amazing what one speech can do. One little a$$chewing and all of a sudden all these clows are running around like chickens with their heads cut off.
40 posted on 09/14/2002 6:12:35 PM PDT by Valin
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