Posted on 09/15/2002 5:20:45 PM PDT by jstone78
Portland Jews Brace for Assault by 'Jews for Jesus'
By Paul Haist, Jewish Review
Portland’s Jewish community has mobilized to resist a two-week assault by Jews for Jesus who will unleash a sizeable squad of trained proselytizers on the city at the beginning of June. A former Eugene rabbi who now specializes in combating Jews for Jesus returned to Oregon May 7 and 8 to help the Jewish community here prepare for the assault. The campaign is planned to coincide with the annual Portland Rose Festival when thousands of people will be on the streets and accessible by pamphleteers.
Rabbi Efraim Davidson is the director of Torah Atlanta, a counter-missionary group that serves the southeast United States. Davidson, who lives in Atlanta now, was a founder and the spiritual leader of Congregation Ahavas Torah in Eugene.
ANTI-'JEWS FOR JESUS' FLIER
The Jewish Federation of Portland and its Community Relations Committee have been aware for several months of JFJ plans to bring their crusade here now to take advantage of the large public gatherings that will occur during the Rose Festival.
Davidson said that the Portland campaign is part of a JFJ five-year program called “Behold Your God.” He has confronted similar JFJ campaigns in other cities, including Tampa, Fla., and Atlanta.
“Behold Your God,” is, according to Davidson, “a very well coordinated, multi-million-dollar campaign” focusing on 66 cities worldwide with Jewish populations of 25,000 or more.
He said that the Jews for Jesus use aggressive proselytizing to target disenfranchised or unaffiliated Jews, Russian immigrants and college students. He said their techniques are manipulative, deceptive and anti-Semitic.
Jews for Jesus have had some success in recent years. Davidson cited figures that show the group has grown from a mere seven U.S. congregations in 1975 to 478 today. There already are at least five so-called messianic congregations in Portland, according to the Web site www.missionportland.org, although Davidson identifies only three messianic congregations here.
Davidson added that in 1973 there were an estimated 10,000 born Jews in the United States who were practicing Christians. Today, 29 years later, he put that figure at about 250,000.
Davidson said the JFJ typically names a coordinator for a particular city that is part of its campaign plan. That person, who he identified as Sue Pearlman in Portland, does the groundwork for the upcoming campaign.
That groundwork includes, said Davidson, “hooking up with a messianic congregation and using it as the physical base for training.”
The coordinator also usually contacts local Baptist churches to recruit lay Christian volunteers. Davidson said the JFJ relies on the Baptists because they are “very motivated evangelicals.”
(Excerpt) Read more at torahatlanta.com ...
Isn't it funny that both sides of the political spectrum are always accusing each other of being conspiritorial?
I just wish that liberal Jews would give the "anti-semitic" label a rest. All freepers here who dislike Barbara Striesand (99.9%) could be branded with the scarlet "A" just for disagreeing with her politics. Think that's a stretch? Tell that to the music critic who wrote a negative review of her concert and was immediately attacked by the leftists as a bigot.
I quoted the scriptures that prove Jesus and His disciples clearly claimed there is NO OTHER WAY to God but through Him.
I also showed you that Jesus stated this applied to Jews.
Even a child can understand what those verses say.
These scriptures clearly prove you are wrong when you said the Bible didn't teach the Jews need to believe in Jesus to be saved.
Obviously you cannot challenge any of these scriptures, and instead have gone on a disconnected rant about the definition of "kingdom".
The rest of your post only gets worse;
Where I walk those signs follow me. God tells me I'm on the right path. I am not alone - there are others who know of which I speak and walk as I walk.
Are you trying to make me laugh on purpose or what?
It is clear that you are having a hard time articulating a coherant response to my posts.
Once again;
Jesus said "NO MAN cometh unto the Father but by Me" (John 14:6)
Jesus told the religious Jews that didn't accept Him as Messiah;
"You shall die in your sins. If you believe that I am not He, you shall die in your sins" (John 8:24)
"Neither is there salvation in any other. For there is no other name under heaven given unto men, whereby we must be saved" (Acts 4:12)
Jesus also told the religious Jews who rejected Him; "If God were your father you would love me".
"You are of your father the Devil"
( John 8:42-44)
Like it or not the scriptures clearly teach the Jews must accept Jesus to be saved.
4567. *SatanasDemons saying they come in peace and tranquillity have filled what represents itself to be the temple and require others to bow to their judgment, i.e. submit. It isn't only Islam that means submission. This is today, not the Roman or Spanish Inquisition. We will serve no god but the L~rd and Him only.
Search for G4567 in KJVSL
satanaV Satanas sat-an-as'
of Chaldee origin corresponding to 4566 (with the definite affix);
the accuser, i.e. the devil:--Satan.
The enemies of G~d have been provoked because I pointed out that Replacement Theology is false and Christians are not supposed to exalt themselves over and above Jews lest they be cut off . Demons are raging because they want people to continue to be deceived. Replacement Theology is antisemitic and those who hold to it need to repent of it in every form, and inspect their other doctrines as well to see how they incorporate antisemitism. Some people should seek deliverance from demons.
Antisemites are without the Spirit, without understanding and are themselves under a curse of G~d. Antisemitism is also a "fruit" to inspect to see if another is true or false. We are not to have fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness even if they claim that they are "a Christian." Ye shall know them by their fruits. Who? False prophets. To continue to argue with such is just arguing with demons. The scripture says, "from such turn away" (2Ti 3:5) and "shake the dust" for your feet. Mr 6:11.
Mt 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
Why don't you mind your own f***ing business.
If you think your God is peachy, great... then worship him and shut the hell up.
For me, I find Christ's message far more compelling when delivered by deeds instead of words. Do you think that might be what the New Testament is talking about when it mentions spreading the good news?
We can thank the KJV for bringing us the term "baptism." King James, because of the "sprinkle baptism" theology of the Anglican church, didn't want a literal translation of the Greek term of which "baptism" is basically a transliteration. If KJV had feared God enough to translate that term on the same standard that you claim for the rest of the text, we wouldn't be talking about "baptisms." We'd be talking about "immersions."
Better this, than the Anglican bias of the KJV.
My wife's side of the family is Jewish, and my sister-in-law is a Messianic Jew married to an Evangelical, so I get to see a lot of the dynamics up close
Being "Jewish" is both a religion and an ethnicity. One can be an atheist, yet still have a strong attachment and identification with the ethnicly-Jewish community. Once you become a Christian of Jewish descent, you identify more with the Christian community.
All the people who think "Jews for Jesus" are such a bunch of great guys, how would they feel if a group calling itself "Christians for Mohammed" targeted all their churches for conversion to Islam?
What exactly are you summarizing? I see nothing of the above in Yehuda's post. Liars are and deceivers are groups who, under pretenses of being Jewish, go out and try to convert other Jews. Interestingly, they go after those are most susceptable and are easily fooled - college students, and russian Jews who lost touch with their Judaism because of the Soviet "discouragement" of practicing Judaism. So, tell me, what's the difference between a Jew who believes in Christ, and a Christian?
(2) "Jewish Christians should say no more to other Jews but go evangelize the Muslims"
Yehuda brought up a valid point. If Christ's message is universal & etc, why baptists concentrating on Jews? What about catholics, muslims, etc? Why do Jews for Jesus not admit openly that they are backed financially by baptists? What are the differences in beliefs between baptists and Jews for Jesus, and if there are none, why don't they call themselves baptists? Is a Jew not one who practices Judaism?
What were religious Jews doing all day yesterday, that some noticed their conspicuous absence from the forum?
Deuteronomy 4:29-35 29. From there you will seek the Lord, your God, and you will find Him, if you search for Him with all your heart and all your soul.
30. When you are in distress and all these things have befallen you, at the end of days, you will return unto the Lord, your God, and hearken to His voice.
31. For the Lord, your God, is a merciful God, He will not abandon you nor destroy you, and He will not forget the covenant of your forefathers that He swore to them.
32. For inquire now regarding the early days that preceded you, from the day when God created man on the earth, and from one end of heaven to the other end of heaven: Has there ever been anything like this great thing [giving of the Torah on Sinai] or has anything like it been heard?
33. Has a people ever heard the voice of God speaking from the midst of the fire as you have heard, and survived?
34. Or has any god ever miraculously come to take for himself a nation from amidst another nation, with challenges, with signs, and with wonders, and with war, and with a strong hand, and with an outstretched arm, and with greatly awesome deeds, such as everything that the Lord, your God, did for you in Egypt before your eyes?
35. You have been shown in order to know that the Lord, He is God! There is none beside Him!
Proverbs 3:18
She is a tree of life to those who take hold of her, And happy are all who retain her.
Paradise of God
PaRDeS - The Hebrew/Aramaic word PARDES is spelled in Hebrew and Aramaic without vowels as PRDS. PaRDeS refers to a park or garden, esp. the Garden of Eden. ...
http://www.nazarene.net/Hermeneutics/Pardes.html
Proverbs 3
1 My son, do not forget my Torah, And let your heart watch over my commands; 2 For length of days and long life And peace they add to you.
Through observance of the Commandments, repentance and prayer.
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