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To: mfulstone
Just one f'rinstance: When Jesus said "if you do not believe I am he" He was referring to the Son of Man. Remember that just before that, he had said "when you have lifted up the Son of Man..."

Did you know that God, Himself, called Ezekiel "Son of Man?"

Huh?
Show me where Jesus says if the Jews don't believe in Ezekial that they will die in their sins.

Show me where Ezekial claims he is King of the Jews, as Jesus says of Himself to Pilate.

Show me where the disciples say that there is "One name" under heaven by which men might be saved and it is Ezekial.
Nothing you say has a thing to do with the numerous claims that Jesus is the ONLY Son of God and the ONLY WAY to salvation.

I was where you are at about 1957. I have read and studied the bible since 1945 (I learned to read out ot the KJV.)

That makes it even more surprising you know so little about the teachings of Christ.

Long ago I learned that ALL of the seed of Israel will be saved. The gifts and callings of God are without repentance.

You are deceived.
Both John the Baptist and Jesus Christ began their ministries with the message "Repent, for the Kingdom of God is at hand".
Ask me who I believe, them or you.

86 posted on 09/15/2002 9:02:44 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: Jorge
You are deceived.
Both John the Baptist and Jesus Christ began their ministries with the message "Repent, for the Kingdom of God is at hand".
Ask me who I believe, them or you.

I will only address part of your spewings:

Look up the meaning of the greek word for "kingdom." It's "basileia" and does not mean a king, a government, society, royal family or religion. It means the power and authority by which a king rules. Jesus said that "kingdom" is within you. He also said that it does not come with observation. He was speaking to believers and nonbelievers alike when he said that. He then went on to show what the power and authority can do by healing the sick, raising the dead and casting out demons. He taught his disciples to do the same. One of the first things he did was send out twelve and then another seventy who performed miracles. This was done at a time when he could not give them the holy Spirit by which to do miracles.(John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.) It was the power and authority of the kingdom by which these things were done. And that is what the gospel of the kingdom was all about. That power and authority was at hand - literally at their fingertips as it is today. But in order to weild that power, they needed to repent - turn away from their sins and ask forgiveness of God. John was preaching the gospel of the kingdom and repentance before Jesus went public and began his ministry.

If you cannot understand the gospel of the kingdom, how can you understand those other scriptures you quote?

If you really understood who Jesus really was, you would have so many signs and wonders following you around that people would be seeking you out - you wouldn't have to seek them. Until you reach that exalted state, I suggest you keep your faith to yourself and let the Jews be. As it is written:
John 14:12 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father.

Where I walk those signs follow me. God tells me I'm on the right path. I am not alone - there are others who know of which I speak and walk as I walk. Jesus said to "seek ye first the kingdom of God." (kingdom=power & authority) He did not say to seek any thing else first.

And, addressing repentance: Do you know what Yom Kippur is all about? Do you know anything about Jews repenting of their sins? Do or did you ever do it with the same singleness of purpose and conviction? Do you think a devout Jew does not believe God even as Abraham did?

Romans 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.

113 posted on 09/16/2002 12:27:11 AM PDT by mfulstone
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