Pat Buchanan: No Evidence Iraq Is Developing Nuclear Weapons

World Net Daily ^ | 9/16/02

[11th Earl of Mar]

And yes, you are right. You caught me. I am biased and my opinions are biased.

Bad me.

[Willie Green]

Your sins have been forgiven, my son.
For your penance, say 25 fervent Go Pat Go!!!'s.
Go in peace and sin no more.

[billybudd]

You know, there really is no reason not to believe Bush. There isnt much more in it for Bush other than maybe "legacy". But there is no scandal, no questionable activities in the White House that may make us all think he is trying to divert attention. How refreshing.

Try oil.

[billybudd]

You know, there really is no reason not to believe Bush. There isnt much more in it for Bush other than maybe "legacy". But there is no scandal, no questionable activities in the White House that may make us all think he is trying to divert attention. How refreshing.

Try the economy.

[Texasforever]

Is that you McCalluff

[Texasforever]

Are you going to post the entire DNC talking points memo?

[DaGman]

Any physics major would be within months of a bomb with fisionable material.

[billybudd]

"An Iraqi defector" is not justification for engaging the entire nation in war. Could this defector simply be dissatisfied that Saddam didn't give him a big enough pay raise and now wants to get rid of his old boss?
As for Saudi Arabia, yes, they finally relented after months of US pressure and a statement by Bush that we would invade Iraq no matter what, that they said they would allow use of their bases. They are hardly gung-ho about attacking Iraq. It is strange that, if as Bush says that the Arab states are under mortal threat from Saddam, none of them seem to be very eager to remove him. The fact that it will take bribes and coercion by the US to talk Turkey into supporting the war should indicate something is amiss. Furthermore, no one wants to face the fact that Saddam never attacked us.
As usual, Pat hits a home run with his great analysis of the situation.

[billybudd]

This "defector" is a disgruntled employee - shall we launch a war based on such "evidence"?

[Texasforever]

This "defector" is a disgruntled employee - shall we launch a war based on such "evidence"?

Yes.

[billybudd]

I am prepared to trust their judgement.

Then prepare for tyranny, my trusting friend.

[IowaHawk]

Q: What's the difference between Saddam & Pat Buchanan?

A: One's an isolated, unhinged kook protected by army of idiots who want to nuke Israel. The other one has a mustache.

[smith288]

oil and economy is a tired old DNC idea that Bush is trying to get his "friends in big oil" money. The economy isnt dead... Far from that...people are still buying and that is what is driving it right now. Eventually Wall St. will come back around and buy up those bargains out there. Iraq poses a real threat to the U.S. per dissedents who used to work for Insane. I guess im supposed to take billybudds word?

[billybudd]

Of course Saddam is irrational. He is a power hungry leader who rationally calculates every move he makes. He simply could not have survived for this long if he really is the raving, insane madman that the Bushbots want to make him out to be. Granted, he is evil and despicable, but rational.

[billybudd]

Ooops, I meant "Of course Saddam is rational."

[BigWaveBetty]

Really Betty, your "Dr Hamza" defected in 1994! Have you got a little fresher info, especially in the light of the fact that after 11 years GWB discovers this nuclear bomb just in time for (almost to the day of) his anticipated invasion?

Really clast, if it makes you feel better to think Dr. Hamza has no contact with anyone in Iraq with knowledge of such things and that GWB just discovered Saddam has nukes you just keep your head safely tucked in the sand.

As usual, Pat is more right than wrong .... same as he was when he was the voice in the wilderness on "immigration policy gone mad".

More right than wrong? Well that's comforting.
Wow, immigration policy gone mad is something my teenagers could figure out. Lone voice? Please.

BTW, is Saddam going to deliver this thing by camel or by shoe bomber?

Think boats/ships, there are only hundreds of them that dock at our coasts everyday. C'mon, you could have thought that far ahead, give it a try.

I'm guessing you're not one of the people that gave the FBI/CIA a hard time for not thinking ahead to predict these bastards would hijack airliners and drive them into buildings?

I used to have some respect for ole Pat until the 2000 elections, he completely lost me after that. Sorry that upsets you so.

[BigWaveBetty]

This "defector" is a disgruntled employee

What, because you say so? LOL!

Gee, let me think... shall I believe GWB or billybudd...

Sorry billybudd, GWB won.

[billybudd]

No, I don't make the DNC arguments. Here are my arguments:
To save the crumbling economy, which is slowing down, and about to collapse into a double dip, Bush needs to do something fast. Hey, why not bring down the price of oil to reinvigorate the economy AND destabilize the dictatorships of the mideast at the same time? Iraq is conquered by US. Oil prices plummet. Arab oil revenues cut. Arab states in a tizzy.
Now, of course, this is just speculation about what would happen, it's not necessarily Bush's motive. But it is a possible motive, and you claimed there is no such thing here.
About the fabled "bargains" in the stock market, don't hold your breath. By any historical standard, stocks are still highly overvalued, still have ridiculous P/E ratios, and only a sucker would buy in this market. Buckle your seat belts and get ready for the double dip after Q3 earnings come out.

[BigWaveBetty]

Q: What's the difference between Saddam & Pat Buchanan?

A: One's an isolated, unhinged kook protected by army of idiots who want to nuke Israel. The other one has a mustache.

LOL! So good to see you IowaHawk. Haven't seen you around in a while. I've always enjoyed your posts and articles. :-)

[billybudd]

I'm not contradicting what Bush said about the defector (I'm not even sure he said anything about him aside from his allegations about Saddam building a bomb.) But the fact is, yes, by definition, the defector is a former employee of Saddam, who for one reason or another decided that he would be better off leaving the country. So, he is indeed a disgruntled employee. I'm not sure how you can contest that.
My point is that there is no reason to believe this defector at face value since he could have had many reasons for defecting - such as being refused higher pay. He could be doing this simply out of a grudge - to see his former boss slammed.