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Pat Buchanan: No Evidence Iraq Is Developing Nuclear Weapons
World Net Daily ^ | 9/16/02

Posted on 09/16/2002 5:17:48 AM PDT by 11th Earl of Mar

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To: Wild Irish Rogue
We do not suffer fools gladly here on FR

Then why do you bother showing up? Pat has hit it right on the mark with this article, and no one answers a sentence of it, but just makes insulting comments. I can see the new direction of conservatism is straight into oblivion.
121 posted on 09/16/2002 8:30:15 PM PDT by billybudd
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To: billybudd
My point is that there is no reason to believe this defector at face value since he could have had many reasons for defecting - such as being refused higher pay. He could be doing this simply out of a grudge - to see his former boss slammed.

Hmmmmm, what could be another reason for defecting???

Like he was afraid for his life? Just like I've heard him say... nah, you're right, it's the disgruntled thing.

Yeppers you've convinced me. /sarcasm

122 posted on 09/16/2002 8:47:11 PM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
New Pat Buchanan logo


123 posted on 09/16/2002 8:48:31 PM PDT by NeoCaveman
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To: dubyaismypresident
Hehehe. Like it very much, thank you!
124 posted on 09/16/2002 8:52:37 PM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
You are quite welcome....
125 posted on 09/16/2002 8:54:15 PM PDT by NeoCaveman
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To: dubyaismypresident
:-) Although I am a bit miffed I didn't think of it first. ;-)
126 posted on 09/16/2002 8:58:09 PM PDT by BigWaveBetty
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Once again, a "preemptive war" will "trigger the firing" of WMD we were just told either don't exist or can't be delivered. Sheesh. Buchanan really does think like a demonrat running for office.
127 posted on 09/16/2002 9:05:05 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: JohnGalt
Bill Kristol was a McCaniac, right? Plus, he's a pansy little rich kid. Do you really think GW, or anyone else in the Administration, gives a sh!t what Bill Kristol thinks? I think his opinions carry about as much weight as Patsy's do~~ like none. They are two little bantam roosters who think their crowing causes the sun to rise.
128 posted on 09/16/2002 9:24:01 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: GalvestonBeachcomber
Rumsfeld was sort of asked the same question by Marines at Camp Pendleton a few weeks ago. I watched it on C-Span, here's a transcript of that question and answer -

Q: Good afternoon. Lance Corporal Jonathan Lee 2-11. (Cheers.) I wasn't so bright, so I wrote down all the questions I wanted to ask you. (Laughter.) Question number one: Do you feel that if we do go to war with Saddam Hussein that the president will consider fighting other countries in the axis of evil?

Next question: Do you feel --

Rumsfeld: No, no, no, no, no, no. It's late in the day. I'm going to answer them one at a time.

Q: Okay.

Rumsfeld: The circumstances of the countries in the axis of evil are notably different. The situation in North Korea is a dangerous one for the people of North Korea because they're starving. Many of them are trying to flee the country. And their circumstance is tragic. They have a terribly repressive regime, and it is the kind of a situation that could just kind of collapse internally.

The situation in Iran, a second country in the so-called axis of evil, where the president has again in my judgment done exactly the right thing by talking to the people of that country. It has a situation that's very different from either Iraq or North Korea. The women there and the young people there are in ferment. They're creating enormous pressures against the small tight group of clerics that are running that country with the Revolutionary Guard, and who knows? I can't -- I don't do predictions. But Iran strikes me as a place -- if you think how quickly it turned from the Shah of Iran to the Ayatollahs. It is not beyond imagination that it could flip back almost as rapidly. I believe that the people there are intelligent. They're industrious. They're being denied access to the rest of the world. Their economic circumstances is nowhere near what it would be if they were free to interact with the rest of the globe and make the kinds of contributions that they're being prevented from making because of the clerics that lead that country.

So I think it's a quite different situation and I think it would -- it, it's proper to characterize them the way the president did. It would not be right for those hearing that to assume that in each case, the circumstances are similar because they're notably dissimilar in my view.

Whole transcript on DoD website, here.

129 posted on 09/16/2002 9:26:35 PM PDT by agrace
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To: Mr. Bird
Bump
130 posted on 09/16/2002 9:32:57 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: Utopia
Pat is irrelevant.

Pat is annoying

131 posted on 09/16/2002 9:36:27 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
When is the last time Pat offered a realistic solution to any of the many problems he sees?

The Reform Party?

132 posted on 09/16/2002 9:38:32 PM PDT by PRND21
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To: The Irishman
The alleged "absence of evidence" of WMD's is NOT evidence of the absence of WMD's.

Buchanan and quite a few others, starting with his fellow media scoundrels, need to figure this out.
133 posted on 09/16/2002 9:42:20 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: JohnGalt
You're probably right that Kristol (and his ilk) do not know enough details to make an informed decision about many things.

And Buchanan fits right in with the uninformed "ilk," too.

134 posted on 09/16/2002 10:13:35 PM PDT by syriacus
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To: iconoclast
BTW, is Saddam going to deliver this thing by camel or by shoe bomber?

You've never heard of ships? You know, those big metal things that float on the ocean, and arrive by the hundreds at scores of seaports all around this country, many of them in the heart of major cities like New York, San Francisco, Houston, Los Angeles, Chicago, New Orleans...

And their contents get inspected only *after* they arrive in port.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist (!) to pack a bomb in a shipping crate, and load it onto a friendly ship (or even just contract for delivery from a freight company), then trigger it when the ship arrives in port.

Nor would it be all that difficult to smuggle it in over the border somewhere and simply drive it down the freeway to any destination you choose. If Iraq can't think of any other way to smuggle it into the country, just hide it in a bale of marijuana, no one will ever find it there...

Your inability to figure out these elementary issues makes me concerned about the astuteness of your other pronouncements.

135 posted on 09/16/2002 10:14:04 PM PDT by Dan Day
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To: billybudd
"This "defector" is a disgruntled employee - shall we launch a war based on such "evidence"?"

And the author of this article is a disgruntled speech writer - shall we not defend ourselves based on such rhetoric?

136 posted on 09/16/2002 11:28:24 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: BigWaveBetty
Wow, immigration policy gone mad is something my teenagers could figure out.

Yeah, almost everyone's got it figured out after 9/11. Of course the point is when Pat tried to tell the sheeple years ago he was crucified for it.

137 posted on 09/17/2002 4:19:24 AM PDT by iconoclast
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To: mac_truck; All
BTW, is Saddam going to deliver this thing by camel or by shoe bomber?

No, by wooden crate to the uninspected american seaport of your choice.

C'mon folks. He better have a real FLEET of these freighters ready because moments after #1 the asphalting of his pi$$ant country begins. He knows it, that's why he's been in his hidey hole for 11 years.

We're finally starting to see a little fruit from our efforts in the WOT this week. Let's not get diverted now.

138 posted on 09/17/2002 4:40:13 AM PDT by iconoclast
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To: hinckley buzzard
Paul Wolfowitz and the Agngel of Death Richard Pearle are running this war and directing policy; from what camp do you think they hail from?
139 posted on 09/17/2002 4:49:37 AM PDT by JohnGalt
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To: Biker Scum
It was a joke. If we pulled away from world affairs right after the collapse of the Soviet Empire it might have changed the way the world is today.
140 posted on 09/17/2002 5:46:54 AM PDT by jjm2111
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