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Stories of Prior Knowledge of Sept. 11 More Than Urban Legend
www.insightmag.com ^ | Sept. 16, 2002 | Jeffrey Scott Shapiro

Posted on 09/16/2002 9:59:50 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

"What are you looking at?" asked the schoolteacher as she approached one of her freshman students. The boy, a 14-year-old Palestinian, seemed captivated as he stared out the window across Brooklyn toward the lower downtown area of Manhattan.

"Do you see those two buildings?" he asked while pointing toward the World Trade Center. "They won't be standing there next week." It was noon, Sept. 6, 2001.

Antoinette DiLorenzo didn't take her student's comment all too seriously. Of course the twin towers would be there next week, she assured him. The student shook his head and reiterated his prediction until his 15-year old brother, a sophomore, elbowed him and told him to be quiet. "He's just kidding," the older boy said politely.

Five days later at 8:45 a.m., DiLorenzo heard a loud explosion from the north. Thunderstruck, she turned to the window and eventually watched both towers collapse into shattered glass and crumpled steel.

Many people believed this story was nothing more than an urban legend when they first heard it. Everyone has heard similar stories in the wake of such a disaster. Despite the almost unbelievable circumstances of the story, I was able to confirm it last October while working as a crime reporter for the Journal News, a New York-based Gannett newspaper. Catie Marshall, a spokeswoman for the New York City Board of Education, confirmed that school officials reported the incident to police and that the matter since had been taken over by the FBI Joint Terrorist Task Force (FBI-JTTF).

New Utrecht High School was closed Sept. 12, 2001, but as soon as it reopened the following morning, a shaken DiLorenzo quietly approached a New York City Police Department (NYPD) school-safety officer in the school's first-floor lobby. Soon, a dozen investigators stormed the school, interrogating students and searching lockers.

After federal agents questioned DiLorenzo, police detectives questioned her fourth-period class to see if anyone else had heard the boy's comments. Once the detectives were finished, the boy and his brother were taken to 62nd Precinct headquarters, where two investigators with the FBI-JTTF questioned them for several hours. Their father, who was visiting Palestinian relatives in Israel at the time of the attacks, was scheduled to fly home Sept. 11 on a commercial airliner, but he was delayed when all flights to the United States were grounded.

"They asked us if we knew [Osama] bin Laden or if we knew the airline hijackers," the older brother told me. "They were convinced my brother was not only a part of the attacks but that he had helped plan them. They believed it. I could see it in their eyes."

The two boys were grilled for hours. By the end of the interviews, they had answered repeated questions about what they had said in class the week before.

"From the angle we were looking at, you could only see one of the trade towers because one was hidden behind the other," the older brother told me. "My brother likes attention, and so he called me over and pointed out the window toward the tower. He smiled at me and said, 'Do you know why you can only see one building? Because I blew the other one up.'"

The first time I heard the boy's explanation I considered that he was telling me the truth. But school officials said the explanation about the twin towers simply didn't add up. "You may not have been able to clearly see the gap between them, but you could certainly tell there were two buildings," one official told me.

My story was published Oct. 11, 2001, by the Journal News — on page 7A. [The story incorrectly identified the boys as Pakistani.] The editors' reason for publishing the story on the inside was that it was "sensitive" and could cause a great deal of "outrage and backlash." By the end of the day I was back to being a free-lancer.

The next day, Jonathan Alter published an online column for Newsweek.com that verified my story, and MSNBC repeatedly played an interview I had given Matt Lauer that morning on the Today show. Both the Daily News and the New York Post published follow-ups crediting the Journal News, and I received phone calls from media organizations across the nation.

Both Dateline NBC and ABC's 20/20 invited me to their offices and asked me to do a follow-up with them. Unfortunately, no one from the school or police department was authorized to grant them an on-camera interview, which made it difficult for them to go forward. Luckily an editor at a Manhattan-based magazine contracted me to stay on the story.

During my continued investigation I learned that the FBI-JTTF was investigating two other students in the New York metropolitan area for the same reason.

On Sept. 10, 2001, a sixth-grade student of Middle Eastern descent in Jersey City, N.J., said something that alarmed his teacher at Martin Luther King Jr. Elementary School. "Essentially, he warned her to stay away from lower Manhattan because something bad was going to happen," said Sgt. Edgar Martinez, deputy director of police services for the Jersey City Police Department. Initially, the Jersey City rumor was met with some controversy. The New York Times called it an unsubstantiated rumor, and both the Daily News and the Jersey City Journal quoted a board-of-education official who denied that the boy had made any reference to the Sept. 11 attacks at all. Despite their reports, Martinez said the FBI-JTTF took over the matter for further investigation.

On Sept. 11, NYPD school-safety officers interrogated a Middle Eastern boy at Health Opportunities High School in the Bronx who had made similar comments that alarmed his teacher. Catie Marshall said the boy told his peers something as the school was being evacuated on Sept. 11.

"He warned them not to ride any city buses because he had been told at his mosque the week before to stay off all public transportation for a while," said one NYPD officer from the investigating 40th Precinct. "He said it wouldn't be safe." The FBI-JTTF since has taken over the matter.

One New Utrecht official told me that of the 509 Arab-American students who attend the school, many have come forward with their own stories about having prior knowledge. "Kids are telling us that the attacks didn't surprise them," she told me. "This was a nicely protected little secret that circulated in the community around here. I guess they were talking about it among themselves, but they didn't share it with us — at least not before the attacks."

According to students, many of their Arab-American peers were seen taking photographs of the crumbling twin towers from New Utrecht on Sept. 11. "Don't you think it's strange so many of them happened to take their cameras to school that particular day?" one student asked me.

I was beginning to get the picture. Both Brooklyn and New Jersey historically have been associated with terrorism. According to an FBI indictment against bin-Laden, al-Qaeda members used to operate secretly out of the now-defunct Alkifah Refugee Center on Atlantic Avenue in Brooklyn, an office surrounded by Islamic schools and mosques. Today, the former organization's address has been stripped from the building and co-opted into a private business that sells Middle Eastern fragrances, incense and hardbound copies of the Koran. Those familiar with the center told me that New Jersey-based Egyptian cleric Sheik Omar Abdel-Rahman was a frequent visitor to the secret al-Qaeda hideout.

Police always have had concerns about sleeper agents in the area. They particularly were concerned by a story I had heard from several NYPD sources about an abandoned rental car that was parked in front of a mosque only a few blocks from New Utrecht.

The car had been rented under the phony name "Bomkr" from Logan International Airport in Boston shortly before the attacks. Investigators thought the name sounded a lot like "bomb car." The anonymous party rented several other cars from Logan, all of which either have disappeared or been abandoned. Police suspect the cars were used by al-Qaeda operatives to return to their home bases after the attacks.

I turned in my story to my editor who, after reading it, hesitated and then opted to pay me a kill fee instead. I called the New York Times Magazine. "I don't doubt the boy actually said these things," a top editor told me. "But we don't know why he said them."

I received a similar wave of responses from a variety of national magazines. I reflected on a conversation I had had with someone I knew at NBC who told me that Dateline actually had known about the New Utrecht incident before I published my story. "No one wanted to follow up on it," he told me. "They figured it either wasn't true or it would be too hard. They were only interested in the story after you broke it first."

It's been one year since I first began working this story. There isn't a day that goes by that I don't think about what that man at NBC said to me. Even Marshall admitted she was surprised that it took as long as it did for the New Utrecht story to get out and that she was even more surprised that more news agencies didn't follow up.

I don't have the resources to continue an ongoing investigation into who had prior knowledge of the attacks — but I am sure someone out there does. Many things have happened since I broke my first story. On Nov. 9, 2001, my sources informed me that the same boy who predicted the attacks told school officials there would be a plane crash on Nov. 12. I decided to inform an FBI agent I knew who told me that, without specific information, there was little they could do.

Once again, the boy's prophecy came true. Three minutes after American Airlines Flight 587 took off from JFK International Airport to the Dominican Republic, its tail snapped off and both engines fell from its wings, dooming the plane to crash in Belle Harbor, located in the Rockaway section of Queens. None of the 260 people aboard survived. To date, authorities suspect the crash was an accident. I'm not so sure.

Recently I learned the investigation into the New Utrecht incident had been closed because authorities were "unable to obtain any further viable information that would explain what really happened." School sources tell me DiLorenzo has "stood firm" on her account of the boy's comments.

There's a story out there — and it needs to be covered.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: New York
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1 posted on 09/16/2002 9:59:50 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
BUMP...
2 posted on 09/16/2002 10:10:19 AM PDT by tubebender
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To: Tailgunner Joe
I have heard a lot of rumors about people being in lawn chairs on the rooftops in Paterson NJ (huge arab population)during the first attack on the WTC in 1993 and the second one on September 11, 2001.

FYI-the leading HQ for Muslims in the U.S is brazenly in full view from the Garden State Parkway by exit 145. I bet if the right folks went in their with blow torches and pliers we could find out a lot to save us future grief and right past wrongs. But that would upset the ACLU and the 'rats so I guess we can't do anything about it.

3 posted on 09/16/2002 10:14:06 AM PDT by MattinNJ
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Prior Knowledge Article posted & more follow-up
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/748716/posts
4 posted on 09/16/2002 10:21:37 AM PDT by gulfwarvet
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To: Tailgunner Joe
My sources tell me a little grade school boy with a lot of unusual body hair has predicted this outcome for the Empire State Building.


5 posted on 09/16/2002 11:09:20 AM PDT by jlogajan
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Thank you for posting the whole article, rather than a link to Insight.com, like the previously posted thread. The only way this story, and so many others like it, will ever be seen by the general public is to get it to a wider audience than Insight Magazine has.
6 posted on 09/16/2002 11:26:08 AM PDT by giotto
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Religion of Peace bump.
7 posted on 09/16/2002 12:25:37 PM PDT by jjm2111
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"What are you looking at?" asked the schoolteacher as she approached one of her freshman students. The boy, a 14-year-old Palestinian, seemed captivated as he stared out the window across Brooklyn toward the lower downtown area of Manhattan.

"Do you see those two buildings?" he asked while pointing toward the World Trade Center. "They won't be standing there next week." It was noon, Sept. 6, 2001.

The kid was Pakistani, not "palestinian," and Pakistan has a great many ties to Al Qaeda and the Taliban through its intelligence arm, the ISI.

I believe the kid's father was in Pakistan on 9-11-2001.




8 posted on 09/16/2002 12:33:23 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: giotto
So much goes on that is hidden from us - and that we will never know - like TWA 800 and Oklahoma City - Weren't you the source of some sort of media hysteria a while back? Please refresh my memory.
9 posted on 09/16/2002 12:43:01 PM PDT by M. Peach
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To: Sabertooth
[The story incorrectly identified the boys as Pakistani.]

This was in the article.
10 posted on 09/16/2002 12:44:57 PM PDT by M. Peach
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Apologies if redundant.
11 posted on 09/16/2002 1:34:31 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: swarthyguy
You can say that again - it was redundant and repetative.
12 posted on 09/16/2002 3:06:56 PM PDT by M. Peach
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Links of Interest:

stepping back in time..NEWSFACTOR.com - NEWSFACTOR NETWORK: "FBI TERRORISM TASK FORCE RAIDS ARAB WEB HOSTING FIRM" (ARTICLE NOTE: The firm is identified as InfoCom Corporation. ARTICLE SNIPPET: "Arab leaders held a news conference to protest the FBI's actions, calling it an "anti-Muslim witch hunt." They insisted the task force, which also included the Secret Service and the U.S. Customs Service, acted on little evidence, but rather on political pressure and anti-Arab stereotypes. "While Muslims understand the FBI's mission to protect American citizens, we are concerned that the civil liberties of InfoCom's owners and their many important clients were violated by this unexpected raid," the Arab group said in a statement.") by Tim McDonald (SEPTEMBER 7, 2001)

stepping back in time...SEPTEMBER 11, 2001: ATTACK ON AMERICA!

stepping back in time...AHRAM.org.eg - AL-AHRAM Published Weekly in Cairo, Egypt: "ADDRESSING 'THE NATION', TARGETING AMERICA Diaa Rashwan* analyses the content of the video-taped statements released by Osama Bin Laden, Suleiman Abu Gheith and Ayman El-Zawahri" (The October 11-17, 2001 Issue)

INSIGHT On The News online: "PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF SEPTEMBER 11 NOT JUST URBAN LEGEND" by Jeffrey Scott Shapiro (091002)

ANN COULTER.org: "MY NAME IS ADOLPH" -Commentary by Ann Coulter (090402)

stepping back in time...NEWSMAX.com NewsMax Wires: "REPORT: CALENDAR SHOWED PLANE CRASHING NEAR MANHATTAN" (September 27, 2001)
stepping back in time...CAL NEVA.com: "SEURAKUNNAN TIEDOTUSKESKUS: "OPSCHUDDING OM MOSLIMKALENDER" (October 1, 2001)



TRADITIONAL VALUES.org: "MUSLIM GROUP'S EDUCATIONAL CAMPAIGN MAY AID EXTREMISTS" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "CAIR, however, may not be the kind of organization that should be supported by moderate Muslim-Americans or by public libraries. Middle East expert Daniel Pipes ( http://www.danielpipes.org ) has published several exposes on CAIR during the past few years. The most recent was published in April. According to Pipes, CAIR has at least one individual associated with international terrorism on its board of directors. Siraj Wahhaj was named in 1995 by U.S. Attorney Mary Jo White as an unindicted co-conspirator in the attempt by Muslim terrorists to blow up New York monuments. Wahhaj served as a character witness on behalf of convicted Muslim cleric/terrorist Omar Abdel Rahman who masterminded the New York terrorist plot. CAIR has also criticized President Bush's closing down of the Holy Land Foundation, a front group for Hamas terrorists. In 1998, the chairman of CAIR gave a speech to a group of California Muslims and told them: "Islam isn't in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on earth."") (091302)



JUDICIAL WATCH Press Release: "SAUDIS SUED FOR 9/11 ON 9/11" (091302)

CLICK HERE to view Judicial Watch's Complaint (091302)


MIAMI.com - THE MIAMI HERALD: "TRIO STOPPED AFTER GEORGIA WOMAN'S TIP" (ARTICLE SNIPPET: "'Just because of the way we look, the way we choose to live our lives, we're persecuted,'' said Hana Gheith, his sister. Ayman Gheith was born in Jordan. The other two men are of Iranian and Lebanese descent. ''I don't think it's fair. It's very sad in this time, in this day and age, there is still this kind of discrimination,'' Hana Gheith said.") (091402)

13 posted on 09/16/2002 8:18:25 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: M. Peach
Weren't you the source of some sort of media hysteria a while back?

What are you referring to?

14 posted on 09/17/2002 2:47:20 AM PDT by giotto
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