Posted on 09/19/2002 5:37:52 AM PDT by luv2ndamend
Well, after they raped thousands of teenage boys in the Catholic Church (of which I am a member), they are well on their way.
I was on our Cub committee during the whole homosexual controversy - which was hotly debated in our town. We lost precisely two families (out of 70 or so) who disagreed with the Boy Scout's position. A few other families sort of faded out of the pack due to their fear of the controversy (you know, where you have to take a stand). During the same year, our Boy Scout troop almost doubled in size, and we added a new and fourth Boy Scout troop to our town. Boy Scouts is going strong around here, and I believe that the fact that scouts won't allow homosexuals as scoutmasters is seen as a huge plus by a great many families.
This larger principle is indeed what is at stake in the scouts' principled stand. Will we be a truly free country, where we can associate with whom we wish, or an ideologically fascist state - where all dissent to certain moral beliefs is squelched?
We absolutely do have that right and moral duty. But many Americans are too weak and confused to use that right and to recognize that duty.
I like that one.
Give me a break. The vast, vast majority of parents wouldn't allow heterosexual men to be in close quarters with their teenage daughters on overnight camping trips. It's exactly the same for homosexual men with teenage boys. That's not bigotry, just common sense. It's discriminiation, of the sensible kind that's been practiced for centuries in the comparable heterosexual situation. But apart from that: 1) homosexual men molest teenage boys at a much higher rate than heterosexual men molest teenage girls (just like in the Catholic Church, where a minority of homosexual priests carried out 95% of all the molestations against teenage boys in the recent scandal); 2) parents do NOT want homosexual behaviors exhibited to their impressionable teeange boys, whose sexuality is just developing; 3) parents do NOT want homosexual proselytization of their teenage sons (hey, men humping other mens' rear ends is normal and good for you). ALL of the scout parents I know are perfectly content to let homosexual men do whatever filthy things they want to do in the privacy of their homes. Homosexual men have no right to be in close quarters with my teenage sons (where sexual attraction issues do arise), nor to influence my kids in ANY way that I do not want.
He was NOT told that he was unworthy of the badges he earned. He was told that he was an inappropriate role model for young teenage boys. And on sexual attraction issues, many homosexual men are highly sexually attracted to teenage boys, and many cannot (or do not want to) control those attractions.
It is you who are slandering me. I have not said that all homosexuals are dangerous pedophiles. I have said that many homosexual men are sexually attracted to teenage boys - and that is true. You see that in the Catholic Church scandal, in which thousands of teenage boys were homosexually molested by homosexual priests, in the books and magazines in gay bookstores, in the huge (male) teenage homosexual prostitution problem in New York City, in the constant push by homosexual activists to lower the age of consent for teenage/adult homosexual activity to 12 and 14, etc. etc. I don't claim that all homosexuals will molest. But a fair percentage of them will and do. They have no place as scoutmasters for teenage boys. If they are concerned about helping out society, all well and good. Just do it in a way that doesn't involve other people's teenage boys.
And your point is? Last I heard, lesbians are not going to court to gain admittance to the Boy Scouts. They are perfectly happy to be Girl Scout leaders. (The Girl Scouts have no policies against lesbian leaders.)
Billy Dale wasn't even a scout master.
No, he was an assistant scoutmaster.
I have treated homosexuals fairly all my life. I have spent many long hours and days trying to help a homosexual friend from high school with his many problems. But homosexuals have a far different set of beliefs with regard to sexual morality than do many, many Americans. I have always tolerated their beliefs; why can they not tolerate mine (and most scout parents'). They are the most intolerant people in the world. Scouts makes no attacks on homosexuals; scouts teaches tolerance for others' beliefs. That does not mean scouts agrees with everyone's beliefs; it doesn't. Scouts doesn't attack atheists because it disagrees with atheists, but atheists attack scouts on a regular basis. Same with homosexuality. Scouts doesn't attack the existence of gay bathhouses where homosexual men have unremmitting anal sex with tons of anonymous partners. So why do homosexuals attack scouts? Go home to your beliefs, whatever they may be. Let scouts run its program the way it sees fit. Show some tolerance for what others believe (if you can).
You miss the point. Many heterosexual men cannot control their attractions for teenage girls. That's why girl scouts doesn't have male scoutmasters. It's the same with homosexual scoutmasters for teenage boys - except the homosexual men DO molest at a much higher rate than heterosexual men. They have no business in contact with other peoples' teenage sons. If they want to form a homosexual scouts, they can do so any time they want.
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