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To: DreamWeaver
That's interesting, about so many of them using the same names.

Here's an article about Johnny Toogood--or whatever his name is--who is Madelyne's husband.

http://www.southbendtribune.com/stories/2002/09/25/local.20020925-sbt-MARS-A7-Reports_allege.sto

These people--probably hundreds of them--scam their way around the country, year after year. They avoid having too much heat after them b/c property (not person) crimes seem to dominate their modus operandi. Police don't get all hepped up about extraditing people on things like theft charges, etc. Bond is lower on property crimes--lower, so easier to jump/forfeit.

And then...big laughs ahead...THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN RESOURCES is what might bring a bunch of them down??? One of the laziest, most bloated, most inefficient agencies in (pick a state, any state)?? God definitely has a sense of humor!

It must have taken some serious short-hairs twisting by Madelyne to get her husband to even show up in that court for the custody hearing on the little girl. So that's how you get to these unbelievably canny criminals--just take one of their kids. Brutal--but effective. (More irony: gypsies, a group with definite links to "Irish Travellers", are thought in folklore to "steal children." Now DHR, the monarchs of the child-snatchers, has snatched one of theirs!)

160 posted on 09/26/2002 7:52:02 AM PDT by Devil_Anse
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To: Devil_Anse
I believe these are the same people who tried to scam Disney a few years back with an elaborate hotel rape/civil lawsuit scam. A woman got her compatriots to beat the living h$ll out of her, and then have sex with her, and they in return sued Disney for lax security at their hotel. From what I recall, it almost worked, save for some savvy detective work by the Orlando Police Dept.
161 posted on 09/26/2002 11:07:50 AM PDT by Space Wrangler
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To: Devil_Anse
So that's how you get to these unbelievably canny criminals--just take one of their kids. Brutal--but effective.

That is how social workers destroyed Indian tribes by snatching their children to the boarding schools - to abuse them, to make them forget their culture and to make them indolent dependents of the state. Wrecking Gypsy families could be effective in changing them into main stream criminals, without exotic folkore, pride or memories.

More irony: gypsies, a group with definite links to "Irish Travellers", are thought in folklore to "steal children." Now DHR, the monarchs of the child-snatchers, has snatched one of theirs!

Or rather it is not irony - the servants of the growing state do not suffer competition from people who stay outside of the system.

We can see Gypsies as the canaries in the coal mine. Can freedom survive in the world of the everywhere present cameras?

162 posted on 09/27/2002 5:10:07 AM PDT by A. Pole
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