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Students Spared Deportation-Dream Act that would give permanent residency to students who graduate
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Posted on 09/25/2002 8:31:56 AM PDT by chance33_98

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To: chance33_98
Illegals can get taxpayer ID numbers from the INS in order to pay taxes. Not many do. Lots of them get earned tax credits because they don't make much and have huge families they cannot support (must be a 'family values' thing). The feds are aiding and abetting these low-life criminals.

Those arrogant sponges belong here:


21 posted on 09/25/2002 9:22:42 AM PDT by Tancredo Fan
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To: ex-Texan
REfugees from El Salvador are another matter. This is why she got amnesty. El Salvadorans aren't sent north with fairy stories of retaking their native homeland, Aztlan. Mexican illegals are. Giving amnesty to one refugee at a time is far different than allowing the current invasion to be 'legalized'.
22 posted on 09/25/2002 9:25:58 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: chance33_98
If the kids are 11 years or older they can stay and earn their naturalization (5-year limited window) but the parents should be deported and should have to wait 5 years to apply for immigrant status.

Any incident of seditious activity or speech by the kids or their sponsors and they get the boot, no matter long they've been citizens, and they don't get to come back even for a visit.

Even sponsors who are native born would be tried for sedition and if convicted would be permanently deported. They would only spread their rot if they served prison time in the U.S.

I'm being completely serious. There is no right to incite revolution in America, only incremental change within the rule of law.

I would make it easier to be a friend than to be an enemy of my country--not the other way around. The good immigrants, not the fringies (and you know who they are), are astouned that we would see it any other way.
23 posted on 09/25/2002 9:41:00 AM PDT by Havisham
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To: ex-Texan
Dear Ex-Tex, what a lovely, heartwarming story. I'm with you. Let's let anyone come here and stay as long as they want, let's let in another 8 million or so, as long as they are affable, attractive and able to maintain a 4.0 GPA. We ALL NEED AFFORDABLE MAIDS, and God knows Hollywood isn't churning out enough films yet.

But I'm sorry to see that when you left Texas, you lost your regard for the rule of law. For every Salvadoran poster girl, there are 10 illegal felons in California prisons doing time for murder, torture, child molestation, armed robbery and other minor pecadillos. Watch what you wish for.

24 posted on 09/25/2002 9:44:56 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: Havisham
PS. The name of this Act is nonsensical. But under any name it is sheer lunacy.
25 posted on 09/25/2002 9:45:17 AM PDT by Havisham
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To: ex-Texan
Trouble is, it will encourage and reward ILLEGAL immigration. With 8 to 10 million ILLEGAL immigrants already here and at least 100,000 a year more ILLEGAL immigrants pouring over the Mexican border alone, you're in favor of this because it may have been good for one person?
What about over-taxed AMERICANS shouldering the burden for
medical care and schooling for these people. Let them wait in line and legally apply for citizenship or stay home!

Lets put a sign on the Statue of Liberty that reads "no-vacancy"
26 posted on 09/25/2002 9:45:23 AM PDT by antisocial
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To: chance33_98
Contact the Executive Office For Immigration Review in Phoenix - (602) 620-2747. Demand to know why the immigration judge gave an extraordinarily long hearing date of 14 months for "time to prepare" - or according to their attorney, lengthy time to see if the "Dream Act" passes.
27 posted on 09/25/2002 10:51:07 AM PDT by Tancredo Fan
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Ooops! Sorry for the typo.

The correct number is The correct number is (602) 640-2747

The address:

INS
200 E. Mitchell Dr, Suite 200
Phoenix 85012

28 posted on 09/25/2002 11:21:10 AM PDT by Tancredo Fan
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To: Tancredo Fan
bttt!
Read the article about the rancher...
29 posted on 09/25/2002 11:22:45 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: chance33_98
A Must Read by Everyone on the subject of immigration (click on picture)


The Hardcover edition.


30 posted on 09/25/2002 9:08:50 PM PDT by Cacique
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31 posted on 09/26/2002 8:52:27 AM PDT by madfly
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To: chance33_98
Well, I see there's no reason for me to vote any more. They've decided to give the country away for their personal gain. They already know 80% of Americans don't want this. But they just keep marching forward destroying America for the NWO. Voting is now a waste of time and effort.
32 posted on 09/26/2002 9:08:52 AM PDT by Lion's Cub
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To: madfly
Hello to ALL!~

How can we call our self Educated Americans, when we can't even do the math. Some one ask the question, do this people have a SS# or how do they pay taxes. Well, yes they can pay taxes state and fedreral. We can thak the IRS who has issue many ITIN # (Individual Tax Identification Number). With this number they can pay taxes and guess who is going to venefit from that $$$$ WE all do. Where do you think that $$$$ is going, to many of the Universetisa and 4 year colleges/community colleges/Rds/DSS/Fire Dept, ect. Therefore YES they do pay taxes!. Some one else mention that if they don't have the legal paper work to be here in the USA they/We need to put them in a jail cell. Well, yes we could do that, but can you please tell me who is going to pay for the new jails to be built?. Do we have the $$$$ and the resources to built new jails and to look for this people while they are in our jails. If we don't provided good and other needs that they have we will be vaoleting Human Rights. I'm sure that our gov, don't want to look back with other countrys which are doing so. Do we have the man power to start looking for all of those who don't have the legal paper work to be here. Let me help you no we do not. & most of all are we all ready to start working on all of this jobs that all of this people who don't have legal paper work to be here are doing. Are We all as the Americans whom we claim to be ready to go and to those jobs. Or to work in the fast food chain or even construction. I don't think that people who employ this individuals would be so happy if we were to do so. Other wise the employers would be out of the job. I do have a problem with people who are here eligal and are doing eligal things, such as drugs, but please help me out. Who is using those drungs? some people whom I have clases in college are. & in reality is not just the college kids who are using the eligal drugs that this eligal people are bringing into our country but many Americans are!. My main point is can we used their tax $$$$$$ yes we can!, can we benefit from the ones who work in the fast food restaurants and other jobs that we AMERICANS don't want to do yes we can!, Or do we have the $$$$$ and resources to line them all and sent them back to their home country or to built jail celss...... I can only say if we have all of that and are ready to do all of that and their jobs LETS do it. But if we can't...... Lets help them be legal.... and before we say anything can we please read the sumary about the DREAM ACT on the National Immigration Law Center. & after we read it not ones but maybe 3 times... them we can come back and post our oppinion. But keep in mind that we all can benefit in the long run from the DREAM ACT..... For all we know by 2012 our president maybe Hispanic/Latino!!!! will see you all on Election day~~~~~
33 posted on 02/18/2003 5:28:22 PM PST by Jeoy
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How can we call our self Educated Americans, when we can't even do the math.

Before I can respond, I want to know how you can claim to be a college student, when your spelling and grammar is so bad. Is English a second language for you? There is an article posted today

Surprise! College Kids Can't Write

and this post is proof positive of this statement.

some people whom I have clases in college are.

Would you care to mention what college you go to? I am not avoiding your points (the ones I can understand) but since you joined up today and picked me for your rant, I have to stay on topic here, because this is a thread about non-citizens and American education.

34 posted on 02/19/2003 12:31:42 PM PST by madfly
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