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Students Spared Deportation-Dream Act that would give permanent residency to students who graduate
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Posted on 09/25/2002 8:31:56 AM PDT by chance33_98


Students Spared Deportation 
09/24/2002 

By Mas / azfamily.com staff

Four Mexican national students who were detained in July while on a school trip to Niagara Falls, N.Y., will not be deported.

In fact, the students, who attend Wilson Charter School, won't be going anywhere for a while.

The students got into trouble when they went on a school trip to upstate New York and crossed over into Canada. When they tried to come back across the border, it was discovered they never entered the United States legally and faced possible deportation to Mexico.

On Tuesday, an immigration judge granted the students an extension until November 2003 before their next court appearance.

But time may be on their side. Congress is considering a bill called the Dream Act that would give permanent residency to students who have been in the United States for a number of years and have graduated from an American high school.


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1 posted on 09/25/2002 8:31:56 AM PDT by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98; Tancredo Fan; Sabertooth; Cacique; firebrand; rmlew; Dutchy; StarFan; nutmeg; ...
UNBELIEVEABLE!!!!!
2 posted on 09/25/2002 8:34:43 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: chance33_98
One more decision by an enemy of America. Uncontrolled illegal immigration will destroy the US as surely as terrorists.
3 posted on 09/25/2002 8:34:44 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: Truth29
I just want to know what part of this insanity will stop if the pubbies get control of the senate. I think it will get *worse* if they get control.
4 posted on 09/25/2002 8:36:08 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: chance33_98
Congress is considering a bill called the Dream Act that would give permanent residency to students who have been in the United States for a number of years and have graduated from an American high school.

This is terrible. It rewards illegal immigration and would only encourage more.

The students should be deported.

5 posted on 09/25/2002 8:36:32 AM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: chance33_98
This is our government's answer to an inept INS that is run by Ted Kennedy.

6 posted on 09/25/2002 8:36:42 AM PDT by tomball
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To: chance33_98
an immigration judge granted the students an extension until November 2003 before their next court appearance

The students should be held in detention until their next court appearance. Illegal immigrants should not be released into society.

7 posted on 09/25/2002 8:38:04 AM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: chance33_98
Dream Act? How about Bad-Dream Act, or Nightmare Act?
8 posted on 09/25/2002 8:38:33 AM PDT by chimera
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To: chance33_98
Let me make sure I've got this straight. They want to enact legislation that says, "Come here illegally, mooch a free education off of American taxpayers, taking resources away from native-born students, and we will reward you with permanent residency." This is criminal and traitorous. Everyone in Congress ought to be forced to live in El Paso for a couple of years to get in touch with the reality and consequences of a policy of no border enforcement.
9 posted on 09/25/2002 8:38:49 AM PDT by 3AngelaD
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To: 3AngelaD
Yes, sponsored by that 'nice man' Orrin Hatch.
10 posted on 09/25/2002 8:43:18 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes; dennisw; Brownie74; madfly; Drill Alaska; doug from upland; FITZ; Marine Inspector; ...
That judge ought to be immediately removed from the bench. I do hope Ashcroft is able to get out some of these despicable Clinton appointees..... this guy sounds like one of them.
11 posted on 09/25/2002 8:48:54 AM PDT by Tancredo Fan
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To: chance33_98
Let's say that we go over and really, really give the Taliban and the Iraqis a rich a** whuppin'.

I'd like that.

But lemme ask you this; How would it matter, given that we can't control our OWN borders?

Apparently, we are led by a group of people who are willfully neglecting to do just that.

Above the issue of controlling borders, political science teaches us that the other great test of statehood is whether the authorities manage to collect tax.

And we all know how good they are at that, now don't we? Indeed, we do. They do that very well. There, we see strong political will.

I'm not personally hostile to Mexicans. I happen to agree with them more than with my average own countryman when it comes to issues like family, homosexuality, and the death penalty. And we do need some of them here, right?

But even though I've never been accused of being a pacifist, I'm afraid that I just cannot be asked to whip myself into a frenzy, and climb down from my combine, take up a rifle and go kill arab folks when I see this kind of flamboyant lack of political will.

This is an eggregious case, yes, but it's just two young men.

THOUSAND OF THEM POUR ACROSS THE BORDER EVERY NIGHT.

12 posted on 09/25/2002 8:52:22 AM PDT by gaijin
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The INS is inept on purpose. Our leaders do not want it to be effective. Our leaders have become the enemies of most Americans. Assimilation s dead. We are well on our way of becomeing another Yugoslavia.
13 posted on 09/25/2002 8:52:48 AM PDT by Truth29
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To: chance33_98
More lunacy!
14 posted on 09/25/2002 8:54:44 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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IS IT SUSTAINABLE, AS A PRACTICE OF HOMELAND DEFENSE AND NATIONAL SECURITY, FOR THE UNITED STATES TO ENTER INTO A SERIOUS WAR WITH A WMD PRODUCING AND HOLDING REGIME, AT THE SAME TIME THAT NEARLY 100,000 ILLEGALS OF MIDEAST ORIGIN ARE INSIDE THE UNITED STATES?
15 posted on 09/25/2002 9:02:00 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: Drill Alaska
ping!
16 posted on 09/25/2002 9:08:03 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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Question: If they are here illegally do they have SS #'s, and if not how do they file taxes and pay them? Are they getting away with not having to file w4 forms and such? Just wondering.
17 posted on 09/25/2002 9:17:02 AM PDT by chance33_98
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I think I am in favor of granting permenent residency status to students who graduate from American High Schools. Let me explain.

I have a friend who lives in Southern Cakifornia. About ten years ago he hired a pretty young woman who was an illegal immigrant from El Salvador. She traveled to the U.S. to escape political persecution and was on a "death list" in her own country. She cames over at age 16 so those in power were seeking political revenge against her family.

To make a long story short, she was an ideal housekeeper and the perfect employee. She graduated from high school here in the U.S. with 4.0 average, and then went to college and graduated with a perfect 4.0 gpa again.

She saved her money and brought other relatives over. Their children are also doing well in school. She now works for a major Hollywood studio executive and make big bucks and is just as charming as she was when I first met her. She has been granted amnesty.

She is like a second daughter to my friend. He beems proudly whenever he stands with her socially.

She would make a perfect poster child for this program and should be applauded by all. She traveled long miles, by foot and through "terrific hardship." She is the perfect example of a "self-made woman" and a good example of the type of person we ought to reward with this program.

18 posted on 09/25/2002 9:20:07 AM PDT by ex-Texan
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To: AmericanInTokyo
You know what I think is funny?

Every year thousands of foreign officials come to Tokyo to learn about all the little engineering dynamics of waste disposal. Now, don't get me wrong -- the Japanese have done very well at that, as they should, and as they really do need to.

But they've ignored something else that the Japanese could teach them: HOW TO SOLVE AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION PROBLEM.

When I first got to living in Japan, I noticed that seemingly every popular street corner that I went to meet friends, nearby there was an inevitable cluth of Iranians selling counterfeit phone cards (for the uninitiated, those are cards that enable you to make phone calls from public phones without the need to carry around a lot of change). They would stare, and leer, and jabber away in their very different-sounding language.

On and on they came. There were scads of them. Huge crowds of dangerous, quite obviously middle eastern men with no obviously legitimate way of earning a living. They were all over the place. If you'd go to Yoyogi Park in Harajuku on the weekend, you'd have thought you were in a Kazbah, and not in the middle of Asia.

Zip, zip, zip --that was the sound they'd prominently make, raking the stacks of counterfeit cars past their fingertips, like a flashy Las Vegas casino dealer. It was marketing. At other times, they would loudly call out what they were selling.

And it wasn't just cards. It was coccaine they were selling, and other drugs, too, as well, many times. They were doing all kinds of things in law-abiding, mostly mono-racial Japan that would earn them a death sentence in their own country.

I can remember the case of one Iranian fellow who raped 5 Japanese girls in his appartment, one right after another. They thought they would be killed if they didn't cooperate.

But years later, poof -- they're gone.

There's all kinds of freeps who will say, "Well, gaijin, that's cuz the Japanese bubble burst, and when the getting wasn't as good, they just went home."

But our bubble goes poof and they STAYED.

Why?

How did they solve their foreigner problem?

Nobody's asking a great question, and the Japanese probably don't want to get asked that.

19 posted on 09/25/2002 9:21:45 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: chance33_98
While I find this incident very depressing,Attorney Gen. Ashcroft,is cutting back on the current number of Immigration judges which will make it much harder to Appeal Deportation Orders.

It's not over yet.It just takes time to reverse years of neglect.Can't change it ovenight when you have businesses and immigrant activisits that profit from illegal immigration.
20 posted on 09/25/2002 9:21:46 AM PDT by stimulate
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