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U.S. sent Iraq germs in mid-'80s
The Buffalo News ^ | 9/23/2002 | DOUGLAS TURNER

Posted on 09/25/2002 12:42:34 PM PDT by Jolly Rodgers

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1 posted on 09/25/2002 12:42:34 PM PDT by Jolly Rodgers
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To: Jolly Rodgers
U.S. was a key supplier to Saddam

By SEAN GONSALVES SYNDICATED COLUMNIST

Last week I reported that, with White House approval, U.S. officials -- acting in our name -- continued to supply Saddam Hussein with biochemical warfare ingredients until after the Gulf War.

But digging deeper into my stacks of source material on the murky matter, and after further discussions with several scientific sources of mine, there's some confusion as to when we actually stopped sending this deadly commerce.

The Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs report, more commonly known as the Reigle report, says we last shipped a pathogen to Iraq on Nov. 28, 1989.

However, as BusinessWeek reported last week, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention director sent former Sen. Donald Reigle a list of "all biological materials, including viruses, retroviruses, bacteria and fungi, which CDC provided to the government of Iraq from October 1, 1984, through October 13, 1993." The letter also reveals that the original list sent to Reigle's office failed to identify at least one other additional shipment.

But whether or not we stopped sending Saddam this stuff just before or just after the Gulf War is really beside the point. The fact remains that even after Saddam gassed the Kurds in 1988, the Bush administration thought it proper to keep sending these materials until at least a year after what is now Saddam's most infamous atrocity (though not his most heinous act).

In 1982 President Reagan removed Iraq from the list of states that sponsor terrorism, despite U.S. intelligence reports that Iraq was pursuing a biochemical warfare program, making the rogue nation eligible for dual-use and military technology.

And even though Reagan's Secretary of State George Schultz admits in his book "Turmoil and Triumph" that reports of Iraq using chemical weapons against Iranian troops first began "drifting in" at the end of 1983, he still helped to convince the National Security Council to sell Iraq 10 Bell helicopters that same year.

The helicopters were supposedly for crop spraying though it's now known that Iraq used them in the 1988 chemical attacks against the Kurds at Halabja.

Last week, the American Gulf War Veterans Association reported "that on December 19, 1983, the Middle Eastern envoy who carried a handwritten note from President Reagan to Saddam Hussein to 'resume our diplomatic relations with Iraq' was none other than our present Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld." (See www.gulfwarvets.com/ news11.htm).

The AGWVA also points out: "Probably the most critical piece of information is that according to Washington Post journalist Bob Woodward, in a December 15, 1986 article, the CIA began to secretly supply Iraq with intelligence in 1984 that was used to 'calibrate' mustard gas attacks on Iranian troops" -- meaning that Rumsfeld and company not only knew about the chemical warfare attacks but helped Iraq target the victims!

According to House Committee on Government Operations report "Strengthening the Export License System," from July 18 right up until the day Iraq invaded Kuwait, the Bush administration approved of $4.8 million in advanced technology product sales to Iraq -- the end-user being Iraq's Ministry of Industry and Military Industrialization (MIMI), which was identified in 1988 as a facility for Iraq's chemical, biological and nuclear weapons programs.

When Saddam was at the pinnacle of his power Rumsfeld and other hard-liners had no problem sitting down at the discussion table with one of the world's axis of evil.

But now, with Saddam's diminished military, it's considered appeasement to pursue weapons inspections and diplomatic efforts? Where's the logic in that?

Edward Peck, former chief of mission to Iraq and deputy director of the White House Task Force on Terrorism under Reagan, has this to say: "Our government is constantly saying that there must be discussions between parties in disagreement, to avoid or at least reduce the risk of war: India and Pakistan; North and South Korea; the Israelis and the Palestinians; the Protestants and the Catholics in Northern Ireland. So why don't we talk to Iraq?"

"This (current Bush policy) is not merely dynamic hypocrisy, it is shatteringly unwise. At the height of the Cold War, we knew the Soviet Union could, with the push of a button, eliminate us from the face of the Earth. That was a known, not hypothetical threat -- a real one. But we had an embassy in Moscow, and they had one here, not because we loved and trusted each other, but because we didn't. You lose nothing when you talk, but the failure to do so in this case may cost us dear."

Despite Peck's sound advice, I wouldn't be surprised if the Ashcroft alliance attempted to smear him as being a Saddam apologist or a blame-America-first terrorist sympathizer.

The Bush administration has a lot of explaining to do.

I just hope Congress has the courage to ask the difficult questions before they vote on a war resolution.

Sean Gonsalves is a columnist with the Cape Cod Times. E-mail: sgonsalves@capecodonline.com

2 posted on 09/25/2002 12:49:57 PM PDT by Jolly Rodgers
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To: Jolly Rodgers; Gunrunner2
I guess we can expect the same bogus charge to continue to pop up from now until the "regime change". *sigh*
3 posted on 09/25/2002 1:06:58 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Jolly Rodgers
A completely bogus non-story. The libs are desperate.
4 posted on 09/25/2002 1:08:32 PM PDT by The Great Satan
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To: Jolly Rodgers
No wonder this will be another United Nations war.

Iraqgate (which involved Hillary) went down the memory hole so long as everyone's on board the Iraqi Invasion Winter Tour 2002, right neo-Cons?

5 posted on 09/25/2002 1:10:16 PM PDT by JohnGalt
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To: The Great Satan; skeeter
And how do you know that this story is untrue?
7 posted on 09/25/2002 1:20:12 PM PDT by RonF
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To: The Great Satan; skeeter
Bogus? The federal agencies whose documentation proves it as fact don't seem to think it is bogus. What makes you think it's bogus? Just because you wish it so on a whim?
8 posted on 09/25/2002 1:30:43 PM PDT by Jolly Rodgers
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To: RonF
What we know is that the materials that were sold to Iraq had multiple applications, weapons being only one possible use.

We also know that the Reagan administration forbade sales as soon as it became clear Saddam was using them to develop weapons.

9 posted on 09/25/2002 1:30:49 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: RonF
It may be true -- it just doesn't mean anything. Cultures of pathogens are traded between university labs all the time, all over the world. There is nothing sinister about it. The attempt to suggest otherwise is a desperate attempt by cornered leftists to deflect blame. The last issue of Newsweek was given over to this nonsense. They are spinning like tops.
10 posted on 09/25/2002 1:35:57 PM PDT by The Great Satan
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To: The Great Satan
First it's bogus. Then it's true, but means nothing. Quickly followed by the "everybody does it" defense. You've even got shades of the "nuts and sluts" technique buried in there.

It would appear that you are the one spinning like a top. And, not very successfully, I might add.

11 posted on 09/25/2002 1:44:24 PM PDT by Jolly Rodgers
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It's bogus because it's an attempt to pass of something innocent as something sinister. Is that straightforward enough for even your tiny brain to grasp?
13 posted on 09/25/2002 1:49:27 PM PDT by The Great Satan
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To: Jolly Rodgers
Bogus? The federal agencies whose documentation proves it as fact don't seem to think it is bogus. What makes you think it's bogus? Just because you wish it so on a whim?

Suppose it is true, and the facts carry the sinister implications many would ascribe to them. That would appear to be all the reason we need to act now. Or do you think that because these facts are true, we should not act for some reason?

14 posted on 09/25/2002 1:52:07 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: The Great Satan
It's bogus because it's an attempt to pass of something innocent as something sinister. Is that straightforward enough for even your tiny brain to grasp?

We're about to go to war with Iraq, and the best justification we've got is that they have the potential to manufacture weapons of mass destruction. The fact that we have historically been a supplier of the materials necessary to create that potentiality is hardly bogus. As a matter of fact, it is highly relevant. Your attempt to cover it up by calling names and obfuscating is highly unethical, but not surprising. No matter how much dirt you try to shovel over the truth, it is coming out - one way or another. People are going to know, and they are going to know who tried to pull one over on them.

15 posted on 09/25/2002 1:54:30 PM PDT by Jolly Rodgers
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To: The Great Satan
Ignorance is not a sufficient defense against negligence. It's the job of government to make a thorough investigation before it ships virulent pathogens and chemical warfare precursors to other governments, especially those run by despots.
16 posted on 09/25/2002 1:57:07 PM PDT by RonF
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The fact that we have historically been a supplier of the materials necessary to create that potentiality is hardly bogus.

Rubbish. They have all these germs in the Middle East, and then some. It's utterly bogus. The libs and the peaceniks are absolutely desperate, and there's no limit to the lies and diostortions they'll use to push their swill on an unsuspecting public. Here we have a case in point.

17 posted on 09/25/2002 2:00:21 PM PDT by The Great Satan
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and the best justification we've got is that they have the potential to manufacture weapons of mass destruction.

This story has absolutely nothing to do with Saddam violating the ceasefire agreements he made in 1991. Whether we gave Hussein weapons in the 1980s is irrelevant. He agreed to get rid of all he had in 1991. Has he done that? No. Has he violated the terms in which he agreed to in 1991? Yes. Therefore we have justification to resume the war. And to top that, Bush doesn't need approval from congress either.

18 posted on 09/25/2002 2:02:15 PM PDT by GOPyouth
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To: Trailerpark Badass
That would appear to be all the reason we need to act now. Or do you think that because these facts are true, we should not act for some reason?

I would like to know the motivations behind the desire to start killing people. I would like to know whether that killing is just and moral, or whether it is the result of political intrigue and profiteering. Frankly, the administration has been floundering around looking for an excuse to attack Iraq that will gain traction. There are much more valid targets if we are serious about defending against terrorism, but those get overlooked, or even rewarded as allies because there is a lust to go after Iraq.

I would also like to think that we can study our history and learn from our mistakes. Using corrupt and brutal regimes to fight proxy wars for us always seems pragmatic at the time, but always comes back to haunt us in painful ways.

19 posted on 09/25/2002 2:02:19 PM PDT by Jolly Rodgers
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To: The Great Satan
Rubbish. They have all these germs in the Middle East, and then some. It's utterly bogus. The libs and the peaceniks are absolutely desperate, and there's no limit to the lies and diostortions they'll use to push their swill on an unsuspecting public. Here we have a case in point.

In the face of overwhelming evidence, you continue to deny the truth. That's very sad.

20 posted on 09/25/2002 2:04:18 PM PDT by Jolly Rodgers
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