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Superstars blast file swapping
CNET News.com ^ | September 25, 2002 | Lisa M. Bowman

Posted on 09/25/2002 11:48:10 PM PDT by ledzep75

Got unauthorized MP3s?

Record labels are launching a multimillion-dollar public interest-style ad campaign to make sure you don't.

On Thursday, a coalition of artists and labels will start running print, radio and TV ads featuring dozens of major recording stars who compare file swapping with stealing.

The ads, reminiscent of the American Dairy Association's Got Milk or MTV's Rock the Vote campaigns, are designed to shame people out of illegally swapping music. They feature big-name artists such as Madonna, P. Diddy and Sting.

One of the ads contains quotes from a variety of singers, including Britney Spears.

"Would you go into a CD store and steal a CD?" Spears asks. "It's the same thing--people going into the computers and logging on and stealing our music."

Recording industry executives said they're trying to educate music fans and their parents that file swapping is illegal and is hurting artists and the business. CD sales have been declining in recent years, a trend that's coincided with both the rise of file swapping and a dismal economy.

"Illegally downloading is stealing, and it's against the law plain and simple," Hilary Rosen, CEO of the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), said when announcing the campaign.

The record industry, reeling from the effects of Napster and other file-swapping sites--which allowed millions of people to trade music for free--has been fighting furiously to regain control of its songs.

The ad campaign is the latest in an aggressive, multipronged approach by the labels to quash file swapping that's not industry-sanctioned. In addition to launching the ads, the RIAA has sued file-swapping sites out of business, threatened to crack down on companies and individual file-swappers, and pushed legislation that would mandate anti-copying technology in new products.

On Thursday, industry executives will testify before a U.S. House of Representatives subcommittee in support of a bill sponsored by Rep. Howard Berman, D-Calif., that would allow intellectual-property owners to use technical measures to prevent copyright infringement.

But the new ad campaign, which coincides with the hearing and will appear in at least one Washington-based policy-focused newspaper, may send mixed messages to fans.

For example, when unveiling the plan Wednesday, Universal Music Group's anti-piracy czar, David Benjamin, said file swapping hurts singers and midlevel music industry employees, whom he described as working people who are just trying to "put a roof over our heads and feed the kids and try to do right."

However, it's unclear whether testimony from multimillionaire recording artists will garner much sympathy among fans, many of whom complain that CDs are overpriced or contain just one or two quality songs.

What's more, the new campaign comes after a study by consulting firm KPMG that criticizes the recording industry's anti-piracy efforts. The report said the labels need to devote more time to developing new Internet business models instead of trying to lock down their content.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News
KEYWORDS: fileswapping; mp3; p2p
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1 posted on 09/25/2002 11:48:10 PM PDT by ledzep75
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To: ledzep75
Record industry thieves and their lowlife clients are now giving the rest of us lessons in ethics. How quaint.
2 posted on 09/25/2002 11:51:30 PM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Eagle Eye 2
They're certainly hypocritical enough to pass. Their efforts would have been better paid had they made their appeal to the Cattle Futures Queen, back when it counted, back when they were all on their knees to the Arkansas grifters.
4 posted on 09/26/2002 12:03:29 AM PDT by Bonaparte
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To: Bonaparte
Record industry thieves and their lowlife clients are now giving the rest of us lessons in ethics. How quaint.

yeah basically

so heres what i got to say about it....one thing is in record stores nowadays all i see is pop BS pop music sucks all it is,is pre-manufactured crap that basically they created themselves britney spears and the rest of them never slugged it out in clubs and tried to make a name for themselves they had EVERYTHING handed to them

for the past 2 years i was in a metal band and a good one but a few problems: first being that record industrys wont back anything except light happy-go-lucky and look at my fake rack crap...they dont want talent they want money thats it and sadly all these people are buying this fake crap whatever happen to like real music like rock,jazz,metal,blues? it didnt go anywhere,record exec's just decided to sell what they considered cool and that wasnt real music just pre-packaged no talent music done completly with computers keyboards and some poor 16 year old who was dumb enough to change there name there looks and bra size...so what about the money aspect? well honestly there is none except the fact that i dont understand how these pop stars can complain when they make a hell of alot more money than most average musicians and working people nationwide yet they sit there and say were stealing there music? how? what exactly are we stealing besides that 3 minute exhibition of computer bleeps and samples with your butt ugly no talent voice on it

(exhales) ok ive said all i need to

5 posted on 09/26/2002 12:03:51 AM PDT by MetalHeadConservative35
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To: ledzep75
"Illegally downloading is stealing, and it's against the law plain and simple," Hilary Rosen, CEO of the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), said when announcing the campaign.

I'm not particularly fond of being lectured on morality by lesbians.

6 posted on 09/26/2002 12:07:59 AM PDT by martin_fierro
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7 posted on 09/26/2002 1:28:12 AM PDT by HogFixer
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To: deathscythex
Hang in there, Death. I hope you keep trying to play your music.
8 posted on 09/26/2002 3:12:55 AM PDT by Thebaddog
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To: HogFixer
Is it ok to convert the mp3 to wave and be legal then?
9 posted on 09/26/2002 3:52:53 AM PDT by RWG
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To: ledzep75
Interesting phenomena. In the 80's when CDs were released the record companies told lawmakers that they had to charge twice the amount of a tape because the technology was new and they were still streamlining the process. They swore that there was just no way they could lower the prices of CDs.

In the 90's they created numerous breakdowns of the cost of an album to show why a CD that cost about a buck to make cost consumers $16-$18 in the record store. Of course the record execs were only making a paltry .50 or so per album according to their breakdown. Sony somehow amassed billions in profits from "just scraping by" on costs. They swore that there was just no way they could lower the prices of CDs.

NOW however P2P file sharing is providing the first taste of real competition and the record companies are somehow managing to do what they swore for years they couldn't do, lower the price of a CD to a reasonable cost. Remember buying that album for $18? Notice how new releases are now going for $11-$12? Hmmm, wonder how this miracle came about...

The ethics of file sharing I don't think are really debateable, but its the record companies unshakable assurance of their own untouchability that has created the pent up resentment that has created the demand for this type of behavior. Illegal or not, this IS competition and its long absence has lef the record companies soft in their preparation for it. In a capitalistic system that is a very dangerous condition to be in.

Couple of observations: Britany's "Like, downloading music and stuff... that s like, just like taking a CD from a store and stuff." (Interpretation mine) No Brit, while it may not be ethical, and possibly illegal, making a COPY of the bits of a song is not the same as physically removing from inventory a real world item, thereby depriving the owner of its presence. Its the difference between sitting down with a canvas to make a perfect stroke for stroke copy of the Mona Lisa, and carrying the real thing out on your back. One will get you a pretty painting to enjoy in your home, the other will quite possibly get you shot.

Second: Anyone who seriously thinks this will drive the music business to the point where artist will stop making new music has no sense of history and how changes force evolution of outmoded systems.

10 posted on 09/26/2002 5:00:43 AM PDT by MichiganMan
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To: ledzep75
ESAD RIAA
11 posted on 09/26/2002 5:03:14 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: ledzep75
pushed legislation that would mandate anti-copying technology in new products

As long as they continue to attempt to violate my rights (such technology would interfere with perfectly legal and ethical use of purchased material), I see no reason to respect theirs. If and when they explicitly renounce this corruption, I'll reconsider.

12 posted on 09/26/2002 5:06:23 AM PDT by steve-b
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To: RWG
IIRC, if you didn't buy the music, you can't have it.

Changing the format doesn't really change anything, since it's so easy to change back and forth. I'm not sure if you are commiting a crime if you don't have the CD, but you do have the album or cassette.

I'm sure the RIAA would like to make you buy multiple formats of the same songs.

Mark me down for easier purchase of songs (on the net) instead of copy protection
13 posted on 09/26/2002 5:12:29 AM PDT by HogFixer
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To: MichiganMan; deathscythex
Could some kindly explain to me why the RIAA had to justify its CD pricing practices to lawmakers in the first place?

Here's a hint: if the music industry's product is so awful, maybe you shouldn't listen to it at all. I don't get people who justify MP3 swapping by saying that the music is so awful--if you dislike it that intensely, why are you listening to it?

14 posted on 09/26/2002 5:16:09 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Bonaparte
From their website:

The unauthorized reproduction and distribution of copyrighted music is JUST AS ILLEGAL AS SHOPLIFTING A CD.

So who's distributing it? Not me. And how is Robert Johnson or Jimmy Rodgers or Etta James or Frank Sinatra being affected by me listening to the few songs I'm able to find with Kazaa?

Ever try to find Jimmy Rodgers "Blue Yodel No. 9" in a Strawberries or Tower? How about Mose Allison's "Young Man Blues"?

Not a chance.

15 posted on 09/26/2002 5:16:31 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts
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To: ledzep75
Britney Spears is meant to be seen and not heard. Clue to most actresses and 'artists' today: You're a commodity that sells because you are hot. You're not talented.

I'll start buying CDs when they are worth the price. Why do these corporate clowns expect their customers to respect their rights when they are so heavy handed with things like copy protection?
16 posted on 09/26/2002 5:18:39 AM PDT by ConservativeNewsNetwork
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To: RWG
Instead of waves, try Ogg Vorbis. They're free and open. Plus the quality is excellent.
17 posted on 09/26/2002 5:21:52 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: ConservativeNewsNetwork
I'll start buying CDs when they are worth the price.

Again: if the music is that bad, why do you bother to listen to it in the first place?

18 posted on 09/26/2002 5:24:35 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: RWG
Is it ok to convert the mp3 to wave and be legal then?

Yes.

Yes, it would be.

19 posted on 09/26/2002 5:33:03 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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To: Poohbah
Again: if the music is that bad, why do you bother to listen to it in the first place?

I don't. I have the entire audio-track from the movie Full Metal Jacket playing, 24 hours a day.

In my head.

20 posted on 09/26/2002 5:34:47 AM PDT by Lazamataz
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