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Gov't Had Missile in Okla. Building
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Posted on 09/26/2002 5:15:55 AM PDT by sonsofliberty2000

Gov't Had Missile in Okla. Building

Thursday September 26, 2002 7:50 AM

WASHINGTON (AP) - When Timothy McVeigh blew up the Oklahoma City federal building, the government had a TOW antitank missile stowed in a locker several floors above the daycare center.

The missile, about 3 feet long, actually had an inert warhead and only a small amount of rocket fuel, and the government says it did not contribute to the massive explosion that day. Instead, it tumbled into the rubble of the Alfred P. Murrah building.

But its discovery prompted an evacuation that slowed rescue efforts April 19, 1995, in part because the missile had been marked as live ordinance to make it look believable to the targets of a planned law enforcement sting, according to documents obtained by The Associated Press.

``Tow Missile recovered from A.P. Murrah Building,'' states an Oklahoma County sheriff's department evidence form showing the missile was removed from the rubble by the department's bomb squad and examined by military ordinance experts.

Oklahoma City emergency personnel records show the rescue site evacuation lasted 44 minutes.

``People were scrambling in every direction,'' recalled Sgt. William Grimsley of the Oklahoma County sheriff's department bomb squad, who helped remove the missile during the evacuation. ``From the crate, we knew it was some kind of a missile. We were told to get it out of there and get it out of there as fast as we could.''

The missile was the subject of a lengthy FBI investigation and also was examined by a local grand jury in Oklahoma, according to documents and interviews, but its existence has remained mostly a secret to the public - except for a handful of conspiracy theorists and government critics.

``There was a gag order at the time, we just didn't talk about it at all. It was an ongoing investigation,'' Grimsley explained.

McVeigh was convicted and later executed for the truck bomb blast that killed 168 people, including 19 children - most of them in a day-care center on the second floor.

Though a sidelight in the Oklahoma City drama, the missile's unexpected appearance in the rubble of a federal building frequented by civilians - including children - raises broader safety issues, experts say.

``We have no idea of what the potential dangers are in federal buildings because there is no methodology'' for the General Services Administration, the government's landlord, to independently review what is stored in every building, said John Culbertson, a former congressional aide to expelled Rep. James Traficant, D-Ohio.

Culbertson investigated the Oklahoma City building and other federal building safety issues and testified before a House subcommittee.

The GSA says its security procedures have changed greatly since 1995. The changes ``include extensive exchange of information with local, state and federal law-enforcement organizations, designing federal buildings to incorporate security measures and using magnetometers, X-ray machines and other innovations, some not visible to the public,'' GSA spokeswoman Viki Reath said.

Just last summer, GSA implemented a new regulation requiring federal agencies to seek its authorization before bringing ``hazardous explosive or combustible materials'' into federal buildings.

Still, the TOW missile is among a growing number of recent examples of weaponry, ordinance and other potentially dangerous materials that have been involved in incidents in government buildings.

In December, an FBI agent suffered severe burns on his hands, arm and abdomen when a stun grenade accidentally exploded in a federal building in Buffalo, N.Y. Witnesses said the explosion shook the building and caused smoky haze to drift through the complex.

And shortly after the Sept. 11 attacks, authorities divulged that a government office building that collapsed in a fiery heap near the World Trade Center had stored thousand of gallons of diesel fuel in tanks just above the ground floor. Investigators have examined whether the fuel could have contributed to the fire and collapse, and some insurance companies have sued the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey for storing the fuel there.

The federal building in Baltimore was evacuated in 1997 when pepper gas was discharged, overcoming several workers.

Some potential perils have been known by the government for more than a decade.

In 1987, a fire inside an FBI crime laboratory in Washington set off ordinance stored casually in a cabinet. ``The detonation of ordinance stored in the lower area of the cabinet occurred late in the fire as the heat level approached the floor,'' an FBI investigative report said.

That report states that among the items to detonate were two rocket-propelled grenades and 30 Soviet-made detonating fuses.

Federal law enforcement officials say their agencies frequently must store weapons - everything from handguns and ammunition to semiautomatic rifles and flash grenades - inside buildings frequented by civilians, but that those who handle them are carefully trained and abide by existing laws.

The Customs Service acknowledged it possessed the TOW missile in the Murrah building. When its discovery in the rubble sparked alarm, a Customs agent attempted to assure rescuers the missile was unarmed and pleaded unsuccessfully not to delay the rescue efforts.

``The Customs agent offered to personally remove the inert TOW missile from the building,'' the service said in a statement to AP. ``Rescue officials did not take up the agent's offer.''

Customs said the missile was marked live because it ``must appear to be live in order to gain the confidence of suspected arms traffickers during undercover investigations.'' But the agency added it believes its storage in a ``reinforced strong room'' was legal.

``Customs' actions in possessing and storing this system were completely within the law,'' the agency said. It would not discuss the details of the planned sting.

The FBI eventually took custody of the missile and traced the weapon's history from its creation and initial firing at an Alabama Army depot to its reconfiguration with a dummy warhead.

One military expert told the FBI that even an inert missile could pose dangers. ``He stated that inert TOW missiles are still operational. ... These missiles are still fireable as they contain an engine which is propelled by rocket fuel,'' an FBI report said.


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To: eno_
"I have to agree. I usually the firt to rip Keystone Kops a new one, but from the account it sounds as if the missile was specially prepared to be as safe as possible for use in sting operations. A non-event."

Safe in case the "sting" "went bad" and the "stingee" escaped and evaded with the missile.

I do wonder which "militia" group they were hoping to ensnare with it.

21 posted on 09/26/2002 11:10:26 AM PDT by PLMerite
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To: harpseal
Hmmm ping.
22 posted on 09/26/2002 11:14:03 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: archy
OK...now I want one. :)
23 posted on 09/26/2002 11:31:55 AM PDT by gundog
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To: PLMerite
I do wonder which "militia" group they were hoping to ensnare with it.

I would like to know which militia group was in the market for a TOW missile.

24 posted on 09/26/2002 11:33:04 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
"I would like to know which militia group was in the market for a TOW missile."

After Waco, I could imagine any number of groups wanting some kind of anti-armor capability.
25 posted on 09/26/2002 11:44:11 AM PDT by PLMerite
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To: PLMerite
After Waco, I could imagine any number of groups wanting some kind of anti-armor capability.

Mm-hmm. Anything to keep that standoff going, right?

26 posted on 09/26/2002 11:46:49 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
"Mm-hmm. Anything to keep that standoff going, right?"

Hey, you plays the game, you takes your chances. Regardless of where one's sympathy lies, it's undeniable that Ruby Ridge and Waco begat OKC.

You can't expect people - good or bad - to not take steps they feel are necessary to defend themselves.
27 posted on 09/26/2002 12:12:51 PM PDT by PLMerite
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To: PLMerite
It was Customs, not ATF. So I assume the target was foreign.
28 posted on 09/26/2002 12:39:14 PM PDT by eno_
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To: gundog
OK...now I want one. :)

There may be some more attractive possibilities for you....


29 posted on 09/26/2002 1:23:29 PM PDT by archy
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To: eno_
"It was Customs, not ATF. So I assume the target was foreign."

Or they were going for a "two-fer," the foreigners already had a "domestic terrorist" buyer lined up and the Feds were going for the big sting.

30 posted on 09/26/2002 1:36:17 PM PDT by PLMerite
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To: PLMerite
"It was Customs, not ATF. So I assume the target was foreign."

Ollie North's pals peddling TOWS to the Iranians again?

Sounds like a Democratic Justice Department operation, all right....

31 posted on 09/26/2002 3:29:51 PM PDT by archy
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To: xzins
The Tow is our current SOLDIER-DEPLOYED anti-tank weapon....the descendant of the old bazooka. While it is more easily mounted on a Hummer, it is intended for individual use rather than team use. THEREFORE, it is deployable by an individual.

Nope. Think you're thinking of the dragon.

Tow missiles need a tripod/mount, and a bulky control unit- while a couple of guys can manhandle the components around, they were never intended to be carried/fired by one man.

32 posted on 09/26/2002 8:29:23 PM PDT by fourdeuce82d
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To: fourdeuce82d
I don't believe it was designed to be carried by one man....that's why the humvee mount. But isn't it designed to be fired by ONE INDIVIDUAL SOLDIER. If not, it's crew-served, and I didn't think it was in that category. In any case, I bow to your greater knowledge.

Have you seen the javelin perform yet? I was looking at an actions series of photos out at Marshall Space center, Huntsville about a month ago. It's pretty awesome. Maybe they had video, too. I don't remember.

In any case, I remember them saying it is something like 40 pounds or so and designed for an individual soldier. I think that includes the missile, but I'm not sure. Forty pounds is a lot of extra weight for a soldier to hump.
33 posted on 09/27/2002 5:13:39 AM PDT by xzins
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To: Poohbah
Anything to keep that standoff going, right?

Especially if the *police* involved are a death squad coming to murder as many of the witnesses as they can, using tanks and automatic grenade launchers in case the kids are still conscious enough to run out of the buildings the murderers torched.

34 posted on 09/27/2002 7:49:32 AM PDT by archy
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bttt
35 posted on 09/27/2002 4:42:45 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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