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Ken Hamblin: Is West Nile more than we know?
The Denver Post ^ | 9.29.02 | Ken Hamblin

Posted on 09/29/2002 8:06:45 AM PDT by mhking

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To: Carry_Okie
The CDC, in my opinion, is pretty worthless. Not only are they not investigating ways to prevent mosquitos from biting people, they are not even intereted in finding out who is.

Well, I did check, and the answer is 'NOBODY' in the Federal Govt, all their massive 'concern', and billions invested, with the disease spreading like wildfire, now malaria discovered in the US, and there is not a single government agency is exploring ways to prevent mosquitoes from biting people.
21 posted on 09/29/2002 11:05:36 AM PDT by XBob
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To: mhking
The birds that it is claimed are the main vector of this disease migrate to and from South and Central America. Has West Nile beeen reported in any of these nations?
22 posted on 09/29/2002 11:15:30 AM PDT by fella
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To: hgro
And then there is Malaria that has just surfaced in Virginia.

I just new that we would be seeing malaria again, ever since we started worshipping wetlands. This was the very reason that we drained swamps so many years ago. Why doesn't anyone get it?

23 posted on 09/29/2002 11:16:27 AM PDT by Colorado Doug
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To: Colorado Doug
oops new=knew
24 posted on 09/29/2002 11:22:17 AM PDT by Colorado Doug
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To: okie01
Thats true as far as it goes as to Queens. But it isn't out of the realm of possibility that West Nile did not come from Plum Island. The migration of West Nile was in a most logical progression and did not show up immediatly in the Baltimore/Washington area from my memory. It moved into New Jersey and Pennsylvania from New York back in 1999 and in the last 3 years had managed to spread all over the country primarly from birds and mosquitoes. In addition in a customs port north of New York City almost all animals imported to the U.S.go through it. A number of these animals are tested and those samples end up at Plum Island. So it is not too farfetched that Plum Island may have been the source of West Nile. That isn't to say that West Nile wasn't a experiment by terrosists, etc. to see how a biological weapon might be spread by mosquitoes and birds. Certainly any number of theories are possible.
25 posted on 09/29/2002 11:22:29 AM PDT by jjhunsecker
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Really! I have heard nothing about Canadians having West Nile Problems, but it is logical.
26 posted on 09/29/2002 11:30:10 AM PDT by ghostrider
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To: mhking; All
-West Nile Virus- some basic information--
27 posted on 09/29/2002 12:28:04 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: jjhunsecker
"The Plum Island Reseach Lab run by the Dept. Agriculture that is right off Long Island New York. A lot of research concerning Anthrax and other possible biological agents are tested there. It has long been believed that a lot more goes on there than has ever been admitted to by the gov. "

Also, Lyme disease first appeared in the Old Lyme area of Connecticut, which is right across from Plum Island. Does make you wonder, doesn't it?

Carolyn

28 posted on 09/29/2002 12:44:08 PM PDT by CDHart
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To: mhking
Ken Hamblin is a rambling old fool.
29 posted on 09/29/2002 12:46:11 PM PDT by Johnny Shear
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To: XBob
all their massive 'concern', and billions invested, with the disease spreading like wildfire, now malaria discovered in the US, and there is not a single government agency is exploring ways to prevent mosquitoes from biting people.

Ever here of insect repellent? Didnt you pay attention when the CDC and others told you what to do. Avoid outside activity at dusk and dawn, eliminate breeding areas. Wear insect repellent. You want a multi-billion dollar study to find out how to prevent mosquitos from biting people. You must work for an agricultural college looking for a government handout.

30 posted on 09/29/2002 1:26:35 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: mhking
Health officials had assured the nation that the sudden appearance of the disease in New York City in 1999 was nothing more than a minor infestation.

And, the first anthrax death was just an "isolated case," nothing to worry about; and the shoe bomber was just an "isolated nut," nothing to worry about; and Ahmed "Dirty Bomb" Padilla (or whatever the hell his name is) is just an "isolated fanatic," nothing to worry about.

Well, I'm worryin'.

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31 posted on 09/29/2002 1:27:40 PM PDT by JCG
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To: Dave S
And you know this how? Did the Reptillians from Alpha Centauri tell you or did you read it on your favorite web site.

Try John Bolton, asst. Secretary of State.

32 posted on 09/29/2002 1:29:01 PM PDT by piasa
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To: debg
especially, since castro made the announcement that cuba and iraq could bring america to its knees. (anyone have that link handy?)

It was Cuba and Iran. Castro made that speech at Teheran University while on a Mideast tour in the first part of 2001. "America is weak. I have seen it from up close. Together, Iran and Cuba will bring America to its knees," to paraphrase it.

Prior to that visit, the Cuban VP had made visits to Iran linked to the opening of a Cuban-sponsored biological research facility in Iran. Which is curious in that Iran already produces almost all the medication it needs and should need no help from an outside state, much less from Cuba.

33 posted on 09/29/2002 1:34:45 PM PDT by piasa
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To: mhking
Where's the dead birds....There ought to be millions of dead birds all over our lawns...In fact, there ought to be an epidemic of dead dear, bear and all the other wild creatures out there...Not to mention horses, cows, cats and dogs...

How many bird species fly from Cuba to Oklahoma??? Or New York to Colorado???
34 posted on 09/29/2002 1:44:13 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: XBob
Just wait untill some "Clebs" catch it, the money will flow.
35 posted on 09/29/2002 1:48:04 PM PDT by razorback-bert
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To: Carry_Okie
Cuba already had the West Nile virus ... they certainly don't need a supply of it from Iraq.

Iraq obtained a sample of West Nile from US labs; Cuba probably obtained theirs long before since Cuba has long been involved in Africa in both warfare and in 'medicine.'

The interesting thing about Cuba is that it had a spy, Elena Montes, in our NSA for many years- since 1985; this spy was detected early in 2001 after the WASP spy network in Floida was tried and after another Cuban spy was found in the Miami INS office. Cuba's spy Montes was picked up after making some calls to her Cuban bosses from a DC payphone after September 11, 2001. The US also threw out some Cuban UN diplomats not over their fight with NY City policemen.

Recently the US threw two Iranian UN diplomats out of the country for espionage activities.

Another curiousity: two Afghans were caught in 1990 trying to deposit $2 million in a Cayman Islands bank after they had gotten off of a flight from Havana. These men are still stuck in the Caymans and are unable to leave because they have no real visas. They were detained by Cayman authorities for some time and the US interviewed them on Sept. 12, 2001.

Yet another curiousity: Libya has been making inroads in Caribbean nations, particularly Grenada, where not too long ago an Islamic group attempted a coup. One of those offenders has since been tangled up in a weapons smuggling ring in South Florida.

Also, Jamaat ul Fuqra and other Pakistani-related groups have operations in the Caribbean. The one group is tied directly to al Qaeda. It too has ties to Cuba.

36 posted on 09/29/2002 1:50:29 PM PDT by piasa
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To: jackbill
He alluded to the fact that the migration pattern of a lot of birds takes them over Cuba. Which begs the question: Could Fidel be tinkering with birds on their way north? Or allowing someone else to do the tinkering?

You didn't read the story about Cuba's leading ornithologist who defected and said that Castro has had people working on infecting migratory birds with viral diseases (especially encephalitis) that could be transmitted to Americans by mosquitos? West Nile was one of them.
37 posted on 09/29/2002 1:56:52 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: hgro
And then there is Malaria that has just surfaced in Virginia.

If true, that wouldn't be surprising. Many areas in the U.S. were malarial swamps. Get rid of DDT, protect those "endangered" swamps, assume that since malaria hasn't been around for a number of decades it won't ever be again, and you're just waiting for trouble.
38 posted on 09/29/2002 2:03:29 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: Iscool
There have been plenty of dead birds- this wildlife artist comes upon them a lot while out in the field- and that's not counting all the ones that get eaten by coons and other predators.

But if the stuff spreads from infected people, to the mosquitos, and back to other critters, and it does, it can spread in many ways besides just birds.

I happen to like wetlands- they increase our beef production and we have healthier, faster-growing cattle- so I am not for draining them except as a temporary, one-year plan. But next spring may be a good time to temporarily hit wetlands with DDT. Skeeters will be killed out over the winter so that route of transmission will effectively be nullified over the winter, and a spraying program in spring should knock its spread next summer. On the other hand, elephant mosquitos are natural predators of the common skeeter in wetlands- they do quite a good job and small minnows do a fine job if they're not all poisoned.

Swamps are the least of our problems- the bulk of the mosquito problem is from local small sources which don't have predatory insects to curb the skeeter larvae. People leave pots and cans and old tires all around an in these mosquitos can breed like crazy free of all predators. My dumbarse neighbor left his pool uncared for all year and the skeeter problem was attrocious- we couldn't figure out where they were all coming from until we went to pick up something that fell in his yard. It was awful... the little jerk won't do anything about it either though we gave him a chance.

I ended up stocking his pool with guppies. Seems to have worked- no more skeeters. Can't wait for him to spot all of the fish.

39 posted on 09/29/2002 2:07:27 PM PDT by piasa
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To: Johnny Shear
Ken Hamblin is a rambling old fool.

Are you series?

When is a Hate Crime Not a Hate Crime?
Ken Hamblin
September 23, 1999

I have observed before that the federal government and the liberal media seem all too eager to malign Christians _ or worse, as demonstrated in the government's 1993 assault against the Branch Davidians near Waco.

That attack occurred, of course, amid exhaustive media coverage which all but condemned those inside the complex. I've always feared that this steady nurturing of anti-Christian feelings in our nation would ultimately lead to dire consequences, with Waco only the first of many to come.

More HERE

Ken Hamblin is about as conservative as they come. What is your beef?

40 posted on 09/29/2002 2:13:15 PM PDT by ActionNewsBill
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