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To: dark_lord
The point here is that theology is a science.

Perhaps you want to say it is not specifically a science of matter (or whatever else you reserve for the label).

14 posted on 10/01/2002 7:40:42 AM PDT by cornelis
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To: cornelis
Look - science is defined by the use of the scientific method. Not using the scientific method in philosophy, theology, and the other -ologies by definition means that that mode of thought is not science.

Period.

It is critical that theories be stated in such a way that they can be disproved, or they are not theories. If they are not theories, then they are not science. QED.

Theology does not state its concepts in ways that are disprovable. They are not science, they are metaphysics. I personally think metaphysis is very cool. Matters of the spirit, the soul, God, angels, demons, monsters, and things that go bump in the night - very interesting stuff. But unless the studies are done using the scientific method - not science.

Why the heck do certain people want to make them science, anyway? Unless and until science comes up with some way of accessing the dimensions >3 space, it ain't gonna happen.

18 posted on 10/01/2002 7:47:32 AM PDT by dark_lord
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To: cornelis
Give it up. You're headed into an epistemological black hole. You will not get non-empirical data admitted into the data set. We like our data set the way it is, thank you very much. We have trimmed off everything without a biological etiology and we do not need it. If we can find a biological etiology for it we will resuscitate it and dub it "data". We will copy you on the memo if that should happen.

We decided centuries ago there was no way to think about thinking or qualities or values or cultural characteristics without letting the metaphysical camel's nose under the tent. (Except to find a biological etiology. We will copy you on the memo should that happen.)

And we do not believe the camel should be allowed to exist. He is not domesticated.
38 posted on 10/01/2002 8:16:38 AM PDT by Taliesan
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