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Ex-Senator (Lautenberg) to Replace Torricelli
AP via Yahoo ^ | 10/01/02 | JOHN P. McALPIN

Posted on 10/01/2002 6:03:54 PM PDT by eddie willers

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To: Torie
I may have missed your post on this, but I think you're missing the fact that just because someone gets appointed to fill out the seat doesn't give that person the right to automatically get put on the ballot.

If Torch resigns, and McGreevey appoints Lautenberg, fine, he can serve out the rest of the term. And he can be a write in candidate. But he missed his chance to have his name on the ballot, per whatever NJ election laws cover doing that.

Dave Kopel's article on National Review Online seems pretty clear to me on this. Where is the catch, other than a blatant endrun by the NJSC?

Now, if Torricelli were alive but incapacitated, say in Patsy Mink's situation, I'm not sure what would be the lawful decision. That would mean some interpretation of the law, I think.

But we're not there.....yet.

361 posted on 10/01/2002 8:19:17 PM PDT by michaelt
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To: Torie
Sorry I am late to this thread, but I heard on the radio news a few hours ago that Lautenburg was holding out for the Dims to promise him his old level of seniority. I guess they caved and I am sure the Torch is having second thoughts.
362 posted on 10/01/2002 8:21:13 PM PDT by ChipShot
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To: Torie
Money is number one in every State.
363 posted on 10/01/2002 8:21:50 PM PDT by fatima
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To: Smedley
You know what my husband just said? I was whinning about how unfair it was and he said, "Who cares what they say." I wish I could feel that way. I know we have the law on our side, but it sure would be NICE if somebody in THEIR STATE stood up and did the right thing.

Then we could sit back and watch THEM take it to the Supreme Court!

364 posted on 10/01/2002 8:22:32 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Dog Gone
There's a "no violence" admonition on the posting page at this forum, so I'm hoping I'm not bending the rules by mentioning that sometimes I think it would be fun to beat Tom Daschle about the head and shoulders for a few minutes.

Careful, Dog, you might hurt your back stooping down that low to get to his head.

365 posted on 10/01/2002 8:23:18 PM PDT by centexan
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To: ChipShot
Is that just his senatorial seniority in NJ or in the US Senate?
366 posted on 10/01/2002 8:23:28 PM PDT by marajade
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To: Tennessean4Bush
They would not be doing this unless the fix was already in. They already know the outcome of this Supreme Court decision. Why else would they do this?

I disagree. They are desperate and have no more idea of how the court will rule than you and I do. They only know one thing: Torricelli is going to lose. That's one of the greatest sins of a Democrat. Almost everything else can fall (well maybe not abortion) to the desire for power. Faced with certain loss, they panicked and instituted this scheme.

Look at how many candidates they had to go through before getting Lautenberg to agree. Does that sound like a party that knows what it's doing? Any why have Torricelli give the Saturday radio address when they were going to dump him two days later. Why not give that address to a candidate who was actually going to run for something?

Nope this is the Hail Mary pass from a party that has run out of options.

367 posted on 10/01/2002 8:24:11 PM PDT by PMCarey
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To: marajade
J D Hayworth is running unopposed in the general election for a house seat in AZ. Why aren't the Dems crying about having a choice in that district?

This raises an interesting possibility. Why not bend the rules just a bit more to both replace Torricelli's name AND add about 100 more names on the ballot. After all, we must give the voters choice and I can't see why Lautenberg deserves any more right to be on the ballot than any other NJ resident. By the way, I'm not a NJ resident, but PUT ME ON THE BALLOT because residency is probably one of those little rules that's needs to be bent like all the others.

368 posted on 10/01/2002 8:24:29 PM PDT by Smedley
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To: nutmeg
Lautenberg is stumbling and bumbling all over the place in his acceptance speech right now.

You mean to tell me this is the clown they've chosen? He's tripping all over his tongue, it's almost as though someone is in back of him giving him the DEMO mantra of pollution,yada yada yada...I was waiting for someone to kick him in the arse and say "don't forget to talk about the children dummy!"

I almost feel sorry for the dude. Between this fiasco and the 2 traitors in Baghdad, it's hard to believe anyone would vote for this party of ill repute.

369 posted on 10/01/2002 8:24:35 PM PDT by RckyRaCoCo
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WIPE THE SMILE OFF OF THIS MAN'S FACE.

VOTE THE RATS OUT!!

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370 posted on 10/01/2002 8:24:45 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Howlin
My husband keeps saying about how stupid the people in NJ are if they just let the Dems get away with such a flim flam...
371 posted on 10/01/2002 8:25:15 PM PDT by marajade
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To: michaelt
I have posted it before, but here is my brief as a Dem. If Torch resigns by next Monday, there must be a special election to coincide with the general election for his replacement to serve the balance of his term until next January. Lautenberg will be on the ballot for that of course. Thus there will be two elections at once. One for the balance of the term, and one for the next term. Since all the ballots will have to be reprinted anyway, and since Lautenberg's name will appear in one election, is this not a special circumstance dictating that his name be on the ballot in the other?

You are on the NJSC, and are fair minded. How do you rule?

By the way, if you think the Dems haven't thought about this line of argument, then you must think they are as stupid as plywood. They don't get their advice from brain dead talking heads on the tube. They get their advice from lawyers from Harvard law school that charge $400 an hour in D.C. And I am just a beat up old provincial lawyer in the boonies and I thought of it rather quickly.

372 posted on 10/01/2002 8:25:24 PM PDT by Torie
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To: CyberAnt
What happened to Pallone??

Just my two cents....He was already on a ballot and the dims couldn't figure out how to put another democrat on the ballot to take his place....they want to retake the house don't you know!!!!!

Best, Will
373 posted on 10/01/2002 8:26:11 PM PDT by ptrey
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To: nutmeg
Don't forget the one they thawed out a few days ago in Hawaii.
374 posted on 10/01/2002 8:27:53 PM PDT by denlittle
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To: ChipShot
That's interesting. I wonder if it will be made public? It probably will. Maybe they should just promise all the candidates in close races committee chairmanships.
375 posted on 10/01/2002 8:28:28 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Howlin; MHGinTN
I personally think the SCOTUS will refuse to hear the case, the mockery of the legal system has to stop somewhere, and this is probably a state matter.

I don't think Forrester will have any problem beating Lautenberg, he voted against the resolution of force against Iraq in 1991 and is as liberal as they come.

376 posted on 10/01/2002 8:29:20 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: Clean_Sweep
Makes me wonder when that day would come.....
379 posted on 10/01/2002 8:36:50 PM PDT by rwfromkansas
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To: Howlin
They're acting like they're not even trying to circumvent the law!

Tell ya what, Howlin! I AM impressed with the lawless, ruthless, irresponsible, and single minded raw ambition demonstrated by the dims over and again! They are truly amazing. And the fact that they get away with this act so often is even more amazing. This doesn't say as much for them as it does for conservatives and the Republican Party who allow this abuse of our constitutional republic to continue. It is as though the parents are asleep in the house and the adolescents are running amok. Mature folks had better wake up and get this thing under control. See ya around!

380 posted on 10/01/2002 8:37:19 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham
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