[weikel]

If I had a family I might risk what( assuming uncivilized commie nazi islamic enemies here) they would do to me during capture but otherwise speaking as a civilian( meaining no disrespect to any veterans) I don't think I'd let myself be taken prisoner if they torture and brainwash the real you dies just as surely as if you went down fighting.

[wardaddy]

McCain has always been since he was a child a bit coarse...he even admits this. He's a bit of an egomaniac and acts like he's the "lone wolf". How he behaved in Hanoi is between he and G-d. I wasn't there and the stories are conflicting to say the least but I do think it's conceded that he refused to leave when offered for whatever reason.

He's just not my cup of "conservative" tea.