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Marriage benefits women as much as men, study says
Minneapolis Star Tribune ^ | 10/05/05

Posted on 10/05/2002 4:50:17 PM PDT by rhema

Edited on 04/13/2004 3:37:24 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Emotional problems are equally common among husbands and wives, new research shows, a finding that challenges the feminist belief that marriage makes men happier but women more miserable.

The results of the largest study to investigate the question were published in the Australian journal Family Matters.


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1 posted on 10/05/2002 4:50:17 PM PDT by rhema
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To: rhema
Marriage benefits women as much as men, study says

No sh**, Dick Tracy.

2 posted on 10/05/2002 5:00:42 PM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity
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To: rhema
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579 posted on 10/5/02 5:25 PM Central by EdReform

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3 posted on 10/05/2002 5:02:37 PM PDT by ValerieUSA
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To: rhema
Marriage benefits women as much as men, study says

Divorce benefits women much more than men, reality says.

4 posted on 10/05/2002 5:07:19 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: rhema
Why in the world would a guy want to get married these days. Girls say yes before you even get their last names, seems that in this relaxed day and age, a scratch behind the ear, a pat on the head and a "good girl" will get you well past third base and home plate and into some pretty exortic things.
5 posted on 10/05/2002 5:21:43 PM PDT by 2timothy3.16
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To: rhema
It benefits women more because once youmarry the divorce laws are so favorable to women shes got you by the ba***.
6 posted on 10/05/2002 5:28:52 PM PDT by weikel
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To: rhema



now will love this one
7 posted on 10/05/2002 5:32:26 PM PDT by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: weikel
It benefits women more because once youmarry the divorce laws are so favorable to women shes got you by the ba***.

You're just a screwed-up 20-year old kid. What the hell do you know about marriage, or divorce either, for that matter?

As much as you rant and rave against marriage, you must have trouble attracting women. If you don't, with an attitude like yours, all you can get are high school girls who think going out with an "older guy" (no matter how messed up) is cool.

You can talk about marriage when you've been married. Otherwise, your macho bullshit makes you look awfully stupid.

8 posted on 10/05/2002 5:39:44 PM PDT by sinkspur
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9 posted on 10/05/2002 5:41:01 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: sinkspur
My parents got divorced I know of what I speak( OPH back when he was here said even if the girl was richer then you were could take you to the cleaners).
10 posted on 10/05/2002 5:44:34 PM PDT by weikel
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To: rhema
I can't say it enough...Choose carefully, choose carefully.
12 posted on 10/05/2002 6:09:00 PM PDT by Nathan Jr.
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To: sinkspur
Well, I'm not a 20 year old, and I think marriage is foolishness. In this day and age, being against marriage isnt bullshit, no matter your opinion.

You can stop the invectives, and discuss the matter, or can you only sling arrows at people you dont agree with?

These days, women are as easy to find as hair on a dog, and why would a man get married when all he stands to gain is familiarity?

Try to remember that everyone here is entitled to an opinion, whether you happen to like it or not.

13 posted on 10/05/2002 6:10:32 PM PDT by BuddhaBoy
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To: weikel
My parents were divorced too. But that doesn't mean that marriage isn't a good thing. It's the foundation of a civilized society and for most people the only way to find real happiness.
14 posted on 10/05/2002 6:10:34 PM PDT by Cicero
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To: Cicero
This was printed by the Minneapolis *RED* Star!!! Amazing. Well wonders never cease?
15 posted on 10/05/2002 6:15:26 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Cicero
I think that what weikel is trying to say, is that IF there is a divorce, the laws are not equitable, and a man stands to lose everything if he makes a bad choice of a spouse.

No one should have their life ruined over a single decision, and marriage is too easy to screw up, resulting in a man being a slave to a woman or the government for as long as they deem it nessesary.

Add children to mix, and a man has no options at all. Better to remain single, then to risk it all over love. You can always love a dog. Sex and love are not the same, and sex is too easy to get these days anyway.

16 posted on 10/05/2002 6:16:14 PM PDT by BuddhaBoy
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To: BuddhaBoy
These days, women are as easy to find as hair on a dog, and why would a man get married when all he stands to gain is familiarity?

Your age doesn't matter. If screwing around is your MO, you don't know what you're talking about as far as marriage is concerned.

Try to remember that everyone here is entitled to an opinion, whether you happen to like it or not.

Hey, pal, weikel is a kid. He doesn't know much about life yet, let along intimate relationships. He's usually the first to jump on a thread about marriage and start bad-mouthing it.

His opinion is influenced by his parents' breakup, which is anecdotal.

17 posted on 10/05/2002 6:18:53 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur; weikel
As much as you rant and rave against marriage, you must have trouble attracting women.

If you do, check out my NLP guru, Ross Jeffries, at www.seduction.com . He will teach you how to seduce women easy!!! All for a $ 350 home study course! I'm serious!

18 posted on 10/05/2002 6:20:44 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: BuddhaBoy
Better to remain single, then to risk it all over love.

Better for you to remain single, that's for sure.

The women of the world are, no doubt, grateful for your decision.

19 posted on 10/05/2002 6:21:04 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: Cicero
Okay marriage may have been a good idea for men before no fault divorce laws and the feminazi movement but I saw the way my father got screwed you gotta be insane to marry now and if you must do so marry an Indian( ie from India not Injun)or far eastern gal the statistics are much better.

My all time favorite humorist/commentator on things HL Mencken didn't even think it was a good idea back in the 20's before the divorce laws became insane.

20 posted on 10/05/2002 6:21:41 PM PDT by weikel
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To: HitmanNY
He will teach you how to seduce women easy!!!

It's easy to seduce a different woman every week or so.

Try seducing the same woman for 26 years.

It takes a real man to do THAT!

21 posted on 10/05/2002 6:22:50 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: HitmanNY
Im way too cheap to pay 350$ for a dubious study course on something that can't be taught. If I wanted women that badly I'd simply lift and work out all day for a long time.
22 posted on 10/05/2002 6:24:44 PM PDT by weikel
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To: 2timothy3.16
2timothy3.16 That's a surprising take for someone with a Bible verse as there screen name.

You are not encouraging fornication are you?

23 posted on 10/05/2002 6:25:16 PM PDT by PFKEY
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To: sinkspur
Those who attack in discussions, are usually those who cannot argue or debate effectively. You dont know anything about me, but for an opinion.

Is that all you got, dear?

24 posted on 10/05/2002 6:26:58 PM PDT by BuddhaBoy
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To: sinkspur
Sorry to pick but I just don't think it is necessary to curse.

I do agree that this fellow knows nothing of what he speaks.

25 posted on 10/05/2002 6:27:32 PM PDT by PFKEY
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To: 2timothy3.16
Because there's a lot more to a relationship than gettin' your wick dipped. If all you want from women is sex I recommend you move somewhere that has legalized prostitution and save yourself the BS. On the other hand, if you actually want to enrich your life I suggest you learn about things like companionship and love.
26 posted on 10/05/2002 6:28:01 PM PDT by discostu
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To: sinkspur
Indeed, Sir, you correct and you are a better man than I!!! God bless!

I tend to not have many long-term relationship problems, since I try not to give women I meet me real name. Oh well! :-)

27 posted on 10/05/2002 6:29:17 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: weikel
Planning for failure is a self fulfilling prophecy. My parents were divorced too, I chose to learn from their mistakes and my marriage is has lasted twice as long as theirs and is going stronger than they ever dreamed. In some parts of life it's best not to look at the finish line, because in some parts of life your actual goal is to never cross the finish line.
28 posted on 10/05/2002 6:30:45 PM PDT by discostu
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To: weikel
Nah, that's not what women want, not really. Check out the website and the course. I'm serious. He teaches students to use Neuro Lingusitic Programming with the goal of seduction. Lots of satisfied students. Ross, the teacher, is one funny guy too!
29 posted on 10/05/2002 6:32:09 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: BuddhaBoy
Those who attack in discussions, are usually those who cannot argue or debate effectively.

And those who talk about something about which they know nothing are usually wrong.

Most people marry, and, even if they divorce, they try to marry again.

Those who don't, or won't, or can't, are on the outside looking in.

You can opine about parachuting out of a plane, too, but, unless you've actually done it, you don't have quite the credibility of someone who HAS.

30 posted on 10/05/2002 6:32:18 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: PFKEY
Where did I "curse"?
31 posted on 10/05/2002 6:34:14 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
You dont know if I have been married or not, but you spouted off half-cocked, because you didnt like someone else' opinion. That is fascist(or liberal democrat) behavior, honey.

Now, while my life is none of your business, and yours none of mine, I suggest you learn to allow others their opinions, whether you like them or not.

Who knows, you might learn something. Naw, probably not.

32 posted on 10/05/2002 6:36:20 PM PDT by BuddhaBoy
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To: HitmanNY
I tend to not have many long-term relationship problems, since I try not to give women I meet me real name.

You tend not to have many long-term relationships.

Single guys who spend lots of time on Free Republic are hiding.

33 posted on 10/05/2002 6:37:31 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: BuddhaBoy
No one should have their life ruined because of a single decision huh?

Tell that to Christopher Reeves, one bad decision and he's paralyzed from the neck down for life.

Better off that Sonny Bono though, one bad decision and he's dead.

People's lives get ruined by single bad decisions every day in this world. That's how life works. Problem is you're obsessed on the failure, that kind of thinking cripples people. What happens if the company you work for goes under? The house you live in collapses? The region you call home suffers some major disaster? All of life is geared to failure if that's what you expect. Better to work for success. If you make your marriage work then the state of the divorce laws has no impact on you. Obsess over failure as a reason to succeed, not as a reason to flee in terror.
34 posted on 10/05/2002 6:38:13 PM PDT by discostu
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To: discostu
The divorce rate is 52%( vast majority filed by women) your risking 50% of your stuff plus possibly alimony and child support irregardless of the conduct of either party in the marriage. Some people might think they've got the perfect woman but women tend to change radically around 35 their whole hormonal balance and biochemistry radically alters sorry nothing about marriage appeals to me but im about as cynical as they come.
35 posted on 10/05/2002 6:38:25 PM PDT by weikel
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To: sinkspur
It's easy to seduce a different woman every week or so. Try seducing the same woman for 26 years. It takes a real man to do THAT!

SS, you are my hero...

;')PaMOM

36 posted on 10/05/2002 6:38:55 PM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom
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To: sinkspur
Your not seriously suggesting that I should have a fake ID and be bar hopping now( sorry that doesn't appeal to me either).
37 posted on 10/05/2002 6:39:51 PM PDT by weikel
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To: sinkspur
Just hiding from the women out there with a price on my head!
38 posted on 10/05/2002 6:40:34 PM PDT by HitmanLV
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To: BuddhaBoy
That is fascist(or liberal democrat) behavior, honey.

Do you call all men you meet "honey"? No wonder you can't make it with the ladies.

I suggest you learn to allow others their opinions, whether you like them or not.

weikel has his opinion. Since he's not been married, though, it is, in my opinion, inaccurate.

39 posted on 10/05/2002 6:40:38 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
You mentioned my macho bull****. Don't worry I almost never report abuse the the only time I really do no matter how pissed off I am is for guys who signed up yesterday posting obvious leftist threads( and I think I did back when that Saudi propagandist Patria One was here and that was about it).
40 posted on 10/05/2002 6:41:59 PM PDT by weikel
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To: sinkspur
I call people who come off as girly, "honey", Yes I do.

Maybe you should work on your manly persona.

41 posted on 10/05/2002 6:43:34 PM PDT by BuddhaBoy
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To: discostu
Christopher Reeve is a flaming liberal. THAT is what ruined his life.
42 posted on 10/05/2002 6:44:58 PM PDT by BuddhaBoy
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To: BuddhaBoy
Not very buddhist of you LOL.
43 posted on 10/05/2002 6:45:41 PM PDT by weikel
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To: discostu
I think I rather be dead then paralyzed unless I suspect a cure is imminent. Death is inevitable but being a vegetable would suck.
44 posted on 10/05/2002 6:47:23 PM PDT by weikel
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To: weikel
Buddhism is about truth, not about being nice.
45 posted on 10/05/2002 6:47:28 PM PDT by BuddhaBoy
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To: rhema
What I've learned is that leftists -- whether feminists, swingers, or whatever -- are liars. For many years people would accept as true whatever anyone with any kind of academic creditional claimed. Think of repressed memory syndrome. Hopefully, it is starting to change.
46 posted on 10/05/2002 6:50:01 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: PFKEY
We're not doing the what the meaning of 'is' is are we?

Is cursing only using the lords name in vain?

47 posted on 10/05/2002 6:50:17 PM PDT by PFKEY
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To: BuddhaBoy
Truth yes but as with Taoism your definitely supposed to be detached and dispassionate. I was really miserable until highschool I hated childhood and was prone to wild moodswings but I basically adopted the stoic/taoist/buddhist way(partially) of subordinating your emotions to your logic I've been happier since.
48 posted on 10/05/2002 6:53:41 PM PDT by weikel
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To: weikel
The divorce rate is 52%( vast majority filed by women) your risking 50% of your stuff plus possibly alimony and child support irregardless of the conduct of either party in the marriage.

I'd like to see your source for these statistics. And, get rid of "irregardless." It's a bastardization of "regardless," which is a perfectly acceptable English word.

Some people might think they've got the perfect woman but women tend to change radically around 35 their whole hormonal balance and biochemistry radically alters sorry nothing about marriage appeals to me but im about as cynical as they come.

Guess what? Men change too. They get to 40, and some of them decide that momma is bagging and sagging, and the little blonde tart at the office looks pretty good in comparison. Only, these goofballs are bagging and sagging too, and the blonde tart usually needs a daddy (sugar and otherwise). If she marries you, it ain't because you've been going to the gym every day.

I suggest when your head stops spinning, you'll recognize that it's worth going out on a limb for and with another human being.

And, it's the most fun you'll ever have in your life. You don't know joy until you've met someone around and with whom you can be yourself totally and not fear condemnation.

It takes work to get there, and there are ups and downs, but there is nothing else in life quite like being married to your best friend and lover.

49 posted on 10/05/2002 6:54:45 PM PDT by sinkspur
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First off if you check the divorce rate you'll find that most of that 52% is repeat losers, first timers have much better success rate than it appears.

Second, given just how much "stuff" I had 12 years ago when I met my wife, big freaking deal. Actually I think we spent more than what half my stuff back then was worth today.

Third, there's no such word as "irregardless". It's "regardless", since the 'in'/ 'ir' preposition usually indicates opposition if there were such a word as "irregardless" it would mean "regarding" (notice you wind up with negation both before and after, so you negate a negative and wind up with the positive, which is why there's no such word).

Fourthly, there couldn't be a divorce regardless of the conduct of either party in the marriage, at least one would have to file for divorce.

Fifthly, my wife is 35, hasn't changed, you're full of crap. The hormonal balance you're pathetically trying to discuss would be menopause, which doesn't come on until the mid to late 40s. Menopause is really nothing more than 1 last long round with PMS, no biggy, relationships are about handling tough times, giving each other strength to overcome. And if worse comes to worse notice how a lot of men really get into fishing in their mid to late 40s... coincidence?

Sixthly, I could give a crap if you EVER get laid much less married. But don't go bad mouthing things you know less than nothing about. You wanna say you won't get married, don't care. You start running around saying nobody should get married, I care, because you're spouting outright LIES, can't even muster up half truths. You'd be better off if you just chose to get married because you didn't want to. When you scramble for reasons it shows a general lack of commitment to your position, it becomes clear that you actually WANT to get married, but it's important to your definition of self to not want to. So you go off vociferously to convince yourself that's what you really believe, but the truth is plainly obvious. But that's OK too, I was actually MUCH more vocally against marriage than you... until I met the right woman, that changed my tune. Just make sure you don't talk yourself out of a chance to be happy. Life is much more fun when you have somebody to share it with.
50 posted on 10/05/2002 6:56:33 PM PDT by discostu
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