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[DentsRun]

And you know what? Most Freepers don't care. The government can do whatever it wants and as long as we bomb Iraq all is forgiven.

[RLK]

The anthrax probe is yet another FBI scandal in the making, and the official in charge, Van A. Harp, is a veteran of previous Bureau catastrophes. Harp, reported the August 24th Washington Post, "was accused of misconduct and recommended for discipline for his role in a flawed review of the deadly Ruby Ridge standoff...." A confidential report filed in 1999 by Richard M. Rogers of the Justice Department’s Office of Professional Responsibility recommended suspending or censuring Harp for his role in misrepresenting the source of the illegal "shoot to kill" orders resulting in the death of Vicki Weaver in August 1992. Assistant Attorney General Stephen R. Colgate rejected that recommendation in January 2001.

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The FBI is not the principle problem here. The problem is with the present President of the United States. Bush should have the intelligence and moral clarity to clear rogues such as Harp out of the FBI as THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS so people can have some respect and trust the government again. Instead, what we have had is a president acting like a lost little kid playing president. The serious things haven't been understood as being serious and been treated seriously. Continuing on the Bush family crusade against Saddam Hussein is no substitute for the more serious work that should be done. The nation can not survive more of this.

[A6M3]

Reply to post #1: The fbi has always been a perverse culture. J. Edgar Hoover was an evil perverse human being who knowingly sent an innocent man to the electric chair for shooting an fbi agent who was actually shot accidentally by another agent. To save face for the fbi, he sent a man to his death. Nothing has changed. This is their legacy. The fbi should be disolved, its agents disarmed, and a new agency formed that would live up to America's ideals while being a first rate professional law enforcement organization that we all could be proud of. Until this happens, they will always be tainted, and never trusted.

[WOSG]

Yet Dashole wants union work rules to 'protect' these goons' jobs no matter how incompetent they are ...HUH???!??

[The Great Satan]

Well, I guess it comes down to whether you really believe Dick Cheney is totally in the dark about whether Saddam has anthrax-equipped sleepers here, ready to take out America's greatest cities if we kill Saddam, and he's just decided that we better wing it because there's just no way the US government can find anybody better than Van Harp and Bob Roth to put on the case, or whether you believe something else is going on. I know what I believe.

[fporretto]

I know hardly anything about the internal workings of the FBI, or its history of reliability as an upholder of law and justice. That's precisely why it scares me. Any government-funded, government-operated organization that gets to do what it does without people knowing all about it is inherently dangerous. Abuses of power require darkness and concealment; therefore, people who want power over others for their own purposes will gravitate toward them. The incentives and dynamics are grim.

Inasmuch as the FBI is a federal police force -- there's no getting around that -- it should be subject to the same sort of oversight and sunshine provisions as any other police force. Its success in representing itself as a bastion of stainless integrity has deflected most thrusts toward that effect, but given recent developments (e.g., Waco and Ruby Ridge), its period of grace might be coming to an end.

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
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[Iwo Jima]

From the article:The wrongdoers keep rising to the top. Meanwhile, those who refuse to look the other way face a dead-end in their careers....This Soviet-style institutional culture, in which agents like Harp are promoted because of institutional loyalty...

Sounds like Enron, doesn't it?

There is a job which needs to be done by the FBI, but they are never going to do it due to their culture. Also, the unconstitutional federalization of crime has spread them way too thin and gotten them into areas where they have no business (e.g., guns, drugs).

[Vic3O3]

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[GOPJ]

Did the old FBI feel a middle aged, middle class Republican was more a threat than Osama? Where did the FBI spend terrorist money. Follow the money to the truth.