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To: Jorge
Comparison is perfectly valid. The argument on this forum put forward by yourself and others was that it is "sick" (your word) to believe that God would punish a nation as a whole for the sins of a portion of its populace. Your argument I suppose is that it is unfair to punish a "nation" and therefore innocent people for the sins of individuals. Maybe yes, maybe no. All I'm saying is that Lincoln clearly held that this was something which God in his wisdom would impose. In this respect Lincoln's position was absolutely consistent with what Falwell suggested. I'm not even saying I agree with Falwell on this. But if Falwell's philosophy on this is "sick", than so is Lincoln's.

Get's a little stickier when you find yourself on the other side of the table from old Abe, doesn't it Buckoo?

142 posted on 10/08/2002 4:49:28 PM PDT by mosby
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To: mosby
The argument on this forum put forward by yourself and others was that it is "sick" (your word) to believe that God would punish a nation as a whole for the sins of a portion of its populace.

Wrong. That is not the argument at all.

The disagreement is with sanctimonious self-righteous people who claim to have some devine knowledge of a correspondence between some horrible crime, such as the murder of 3,000 innocent and unsuspecting civilians..and some sin or sins they decide this act is punishment for.
And the fact that they point their fingers at those things which just happen to be their pet peeves.
Big surprise.

The idea that anyone would exploit such a horrific crime against so many humans as an opportunity to push their personal agenda is warped and meanspirited.

Get's a little stickier when you find yourself on the other side of the table from old Abe, doesn't it Buckoo?

I didn't disagree with Lincoln at all.
I disagreed with your unbalanced and inaccurate application of his words to this situation.
Saying a nation is suffering for it's own doing is not the same thing as blaming a nation for an attack by murdering terrorists.
A distinction which seems to have gone over your head.

148 posted on 10/08/2002 5:56:25 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: mosby
that it is "sick" (your word) to believe that God would punish a nation as a whole for the sins of a portion of its populace

Not 'a nation'--America on 9/11/2001. Not 'a nation as a whole'--3000 countrymen. Not 'a portion of its population'--just the ones you don't like. You couldn't bear to say the specifics, could you?

What does that tell you?

155 posted on 10/08/2002 9:19:43 PM PDT by Cogadh na Sith
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