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Three Israelis accused in NY of Ecstasy smuggle
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Posted on 10/09/2002 4:34:44 PM PDT by RCW2001

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1 posted on 10/09/2002 4:34:44 PM PDT by RCW2001
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To: RCW2001
Just last month there was a bust in Houston of an international Ecstasy ring that involved Israelis and drug manufacture in the Netherlands.

This trio were idiots for making such a large move with the increased heat.

One of the brothers in the Houston ring is still at large (reportedly last seen in Spain trying to expand markert share).

2 posted on 10/09/2002 4:43:19 PM PDT by weegee
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To: RCW2001
Stop persecuting these people! They've suffered enough!

They were going to use the proceeds of these illegal drug sales to open a Holocaust Museum in Antarctica.

4 posted on 10/09/2002 5:08:30 PM PDT by BushMeister
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5 posted on 10/09/2002 5:16:10 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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Of cource, RCW2001 is the first to the punch to find something negative about the Jooos or Israel. Never a paricipant in his own threads: just anti-Jewish and anti-Israeli propaganda.

RCW2001: did you somehow miss the announcement of the Nobel Committee? They have awarded Nobel for economics to Dan Kahnemann, the first Israeli to have won the prize.

Why have you not posted that?

I know not why such use of FR for propaganda is condoned --- as I mentioned, RCW2001 does not participate in his own threads, he merely selects anything that negatively reflects on anyone or anything Jewish or Israeli.

I guess, JIm Robinson finds this to be in line with the stated guidelines. So, go ahead, RCW2001, fire aray: heep digging up dirt.

6 posted on 10/09/2002 6:33:22 PM PDT by TopQuark
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To: Democracy1154
Is your's a serious comment? Why in the hell would anyone want to legalize a dangerous substance like MDMA,which is clearly a hard drug with many negative impacts on society.It has been linked to major depression,and is merely a mutated speed product that causes harm to our young people.Just like the speed cooks,I hope they catch as many of these crooks as possible,this might be one good thing the DEA does.Not a safe drug,MDMA is a scourge that needs to be eliminated.
7 posted on 10/09/2002 6:41:23 PM PDT by Rocksalt
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To: TopQuark; RCW2001
I know not why such use of FR for propaganda is condoned

Neither do I. But looking at this thing, the names sound more Arabic/Belgian thaan actually Jewish :).

And of course we know that our little fifth-columnist friend is currently hanging out at LibertyForum, where he takes talking points from the Grand Kludge Voegelin/LarryLied, who is on some of the most insane and frothing rants I have ever seen outside of the National Alliance site. They're probably exchanging bomb belts and mononucleosis right now ;).

8 posted on 10/09/2002 6:56:16 PM PDT by Cachelot
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To: BushMeister; TopQuark
They were going to use the proceeds of these illegal drug sales to open a Holocaust Museum in Antarctica.

Actually, nothing in this article says they were Jews, just that they were Israelis. Lots of different kinds of people there and at least 2 of the names don't even sound Jewish. If they are though, it only proves that SOME Jews are the same as y'all.
But, we are going to have to start a donation drive going to build something Jewish for sure. It would necessarily have to be an addition to the trophy room where the Nobel Laureates are honored. We are rapidly filling up the last one already. We won't have room for next year's.
Of course you guys wouldn't have that problem at all, now would you?

9 posted on 10/09/2002 7:04:12 PM PDT by Nix 2
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To: TopQuark
Clearly RCW2001 has an "agenda", but I see no reason why his posts shouldn't be allowed on FR. It's not like he's posting stuff from neo-Nazi rags -- this is a Reuters wire service article. We read lots of good stuff about Jews and Israelis here; why should the negative news be censored?
10 posted on 10/09/2002 7:18:22 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Rocksalt
You must have missed last weekend's thread about the joys of Ecstacy. Some on FR think that it's no more harmful than baby asprin.
12 posted on 10/09/2002 9:11:12 PM PDT by Hillary's Lovely Legs
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To: RCW2001
good post.
13 posted on 10/09/2002 9:15:30 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Democracy1154
And so you endorse an illicit hard drug because doctors prescribe drugs that have side effects.MDMA is something that is unregulated in it's manafacture,and is of unknown purity.I saw a episode of "NOVA' on TV once that detailed how a dozen people had gone into a permanent catatonic state as a result of a bad batch of MDMA. It has been proven to cause major longterm depression among the many teens who use it. Do we need additional causes of depression in society at this point?Just the conditions of this current society can cause this condition,you don't even need the good doctor's drugs.I cannot condone or justify the use of hard drugs,maybe you can.
14 posted on 10/09/2002 9:19:29 PM PDT by Rocksalt
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
I view it as no better than LSD,which has been known to seriously disorient people with repeated usage. In the case of MDMA,how else could we end up with a whole culture of kids running around with pacifiers hanging out of their mouths,listening to mind-numbing fractal beats at high volume.I'd say this substance is disorienting,and anyone who says it's safe is probobly dope freak themselves.The people who make and distribute this stuff prey on our young minds and I have no sympathy for them at all.
15 posted on 10/09/2002 9:28:07 PM PDT by Rocksalt
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To: BushMeister
Stop persecuting these people! They've suffered enough! So, if there are three thugs amongh the Jews, it is not true that, as a people, the Jews suffered immensely throughout European history?

How liberating for your conscience: since not all Jews are saints, that absolves you from the sins of your forefathres.

Guess what? That is exactly why Europe is rabidly anti-Israeli now: the imperfections of Israeli politics cleanse the European conscience from their own dictatorships, from the mass expulsions, foreced conversion, and mass murder of the Jews.

And you, so-called conservative with conscience, are in bed with the bigots, my friend.

16 posted on 10/10/2002 6:09:38 AM PDT by TopQuark
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To: GovernmentShrinker
Thank you for your thoughtful reply, GovernmentShrinker. However, you have misunderstood me, as many others in the past when I spoke of this. We all are so tired of censorship, that we might be all too quick to see it everywhere.

I was not trying to sensor a topic, a post, or words. Not only this is not my personal forum, I do believe that words should be countered with words.

If you reread my post, you will find that I was speaking of something else. This is a discussion forum, and articles --- from whatever sources -- are posted for discussion. IF you observe for a while, you will find that RCW2001 does not participate in ANY of the anti-Israeli or anti-Jewish threads he starts. This is not an agenda: agenda is a something that one DESIREs, or plans for, to occur. This is BEHAVIOR. And this behavior, in my opinion, is use of FR for personal purposes, contrary to those stated by Robinson.

Your remark amounts to "we can learn something form everyone." Fine, let's learn. Let RCW2001 tell us what he/she thinks. That is what I am talking about.

Instead, she/he shoots for something else. A small contingent on FR that sees the Joooos as the culprit of all evil in America and the world comes to these posts like bees to honey. They will elevate whatever truth about an individual Jew to all Jews: for millennia that was the favorite twist of anti-Semites. "See, I am a good person, I am. I am not against people in general, but, as you can see, them Jooos really deserve punishment." So, if you find one Jewish criminal --- they are all criminal. If one rabbi said something extreme- ---- that's what all Jews and Judaism are all about.

Just look at the post of BushMeister above: not that we caught three Israeli thugs, we should not feel bad about the suffering of the Jewish people as recently and terribly as in the Holocaust. Then, of course, FReepers with conscience, whether Jews or Gentiles, point out that criticism of individual Jews is just that --- criticism, but elevating it to the evil of the entire race is anti-Semitism. This is a discussion of what, exactly? What do we leant from this? That Holocaust, which is denied openly by posters like LarryLied, actually happened.

Most of these threads deteriorate in this manner. And, where is RCW2001 amidst all of this? Nowhere to be found. Never a participant in his own threads.

In sum, GovernmentShrinker, I am not against a topic of discussion. I am against RCW2001 using people's conscience to promote a fight and to promote anti-Semitism. This is against the stated by Jim Robinson policy, but those that violate it seem to be condoned. He is the boss; let him decide. All I did was to attract your attention. It is for you to decide whether this behavior and, essentially, manipulation of you and me by RCW2001, is OK with you.

17 posted on 10/10/2002 6:41:19 AM PDT by TopQuark
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To: Rocksalt; *Wod_list
MDMA is something that is unregulated in it's manafacture,and is of unknown purity.

That's an argument IN FAVOR of legalizing it. When alcohol was illegal, it was unregulated in its manafacture and was of unknown purity.

18 posted on 10/10/2002 8:11:44 AM PDT by MrLeRoy
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To: TopQuark; RCW2001; GovernmentShrinker
And, where is RCW2001 amidst all of this? Nowhere to be found

You must forgive his absence. He's part-time occupied with posting antisemitic drivel on MuslimAccess and rants against FR on that Palestinian Authority rag, you know :)).

19 posted on 10/10/2002 8:43:27 AM PDT by Cachelot
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To: MrLeRoy
I've never quite understood the aversion to ecstasy. Reading through its effects, both short and long-term, it sounds like a more fun version of hard liquor.

Can you tell which drug I'm talking about here?:

Consumption makes the user more outgoing and friendly, more likely to engage in sexual behavior. Continued use leads to disorientation and dehydration. The next morning the user often feels terrible and sick. Long-term overuse leads to liver and brain damage.
20 posted on 10/10/2002 9:20:36 AM PDT by spodbox
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