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To: MrLeRoy
"You have your opinion,

Which is a conservative one.

I have mine.

Which is a liberal one."

A little frustrated huh? This thread is entitled "three Israelis accused in NY of Ecstacy smuggle. Three foreigners brought a substance that has absolutly no redeeming value,no medical use,is nothing but a dangerous poison and a blight on our youth.I am advocating not making substances available to the general public.You are saying in the interest of personal freedoms they should be legal.I am saying a common sense solution would be registered addicts having access.I am saying the WOD should be ceased,but I am admitting there is no easy solution to the drug problem here in the US. Your assertion is that drugs should be sold and dispensed under goverment controls(all legal drugs are licensed by the FDA,and will continue to be).

Your comments sound like those of many liberal democrats,mine sound like those of many conservatives I have heard.

"your position of trading one form of goverment control for another."

"Still telling this lie? Shame on you."

How is this a lie-you would allow the goverment to control illicit drugs.Are you denying this?

"False; you said, "it's not working real well with the substances that are legal at this point."

What's working so well about it? Rampant alcoholism,sky high taxation on alcohol and tobbacco.Do we need more problems from substances that clearly are bigger problems.All your mumbo-jumbo about crack being no more dangerous than alcohol is naive reasoning in my opinion.The goverment scientists who came up with that kind of conclusions have obviously never been out in the street.

"I'm pointing out the logical consequences of your statements. If you don't like them, rethink your statements."

And my opinion is your logic just won't work if it ever did actually come to fruition. I too feel the WOD is an exercise in futility.But you know and I know it's going to be a long time before Heroin and crack are legal in the US.





102 posted on 11/05/2002 7:21:28 PM PST by Rocksalt
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To: Rocksalt
"You have your opinion,

Which is a conservative one.

I have mine.

Which is a liberal one."

A little frustrated huh?

Not in the least---just calling a spade a spade. "As part of a greater society,we also have responsibility to others" is a liberal/socialist position.

there is no easy solution to the drug problem here in the US.

There is NO governmental solution to the problem of adults harming themselves with bad choices, as the history of Prohibition proves.

(all legal drugs are licensed by the FDA,and will continue to be).

False; neither tobacco nor alcohol are under the FDA's jurisdiction.

Your comments sound like those of many liberal democrats,mine sound like those of many conservatives I have heard.

Unlike liberal Democrats and phony "conservatives," I take a consistent stand for individual freedom. "Conservatives" who support individual freedom only when it suits them are phonies.

"your position of trading one form of goverment control for another."

"Still telling this lie? Shame on you."

How is this a lie

As I've pointed out several times and you have never rebutted, what I advocate is not a mere trade but a LESSENING of goverment control.

What's working so well about it? Rampant alcoholism,

Define "rampant." I didn't have to step over any drunks on my way to work today.

sky high taxation on alcohol and tobbacco.

Are you seriously claiming that this is a problem with the LEGALITY of tobacco and alcohol?! That's just comical.

Do we need more problems

Whenever there is true freedom there is the potential for self-harm. To a true conservative that is not an argument for restricting freedom.

crack being no more dangerous than alcohol [...] The goverment scientists who came up with that kind of conclusions

Why are you misrepresenting my position? I never said that, nor did the USDoJ.

have obviously never been out in the street.

Observations "out in the street" are neither randomly selected nor comparable against a control group, so they prove LESS about general conclusions than scientific observations do.

"I'm pointing out the logical consequences of your statements. If you don't like them, rethink your statements."

And my opinion is your logic just won't work if it ever did actually come to fruition.

Nonresponsive. You claimed that people should be allowed to kill dealers of legalized narcotics, and you agree that alcohol is also a harmful substance, so the logical consequence is that people should be allowed to kill dealers of alcohol.

104 posted on 11/06/2002 11:02:17 AM PST by MrLeRoy
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